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Captain_Yuri said:

Yea in a lot of ways, this is Intel's Bulldozer moment. Their i9s and i7s are slower than AMD 5900x and 5800x. Their 8 core 16 threaded i9 is more expensive than the 12 core 24 threaded 5900x while consuming more power and generating more heat than the 5900x. And in some games and workloads, the i9 10900k can beat the i9 11900k thanks to it's additional 2 cores and 4 threads.

The only one anyone can recommend is the i5 but then when you consider you would need a more expensive Z series motherboard to overclock it compared to a B series on AMD which can overclock the Ryzen 5 just fine, the value goes down. Not to mention the 10 series i7s, i5s and i9s have been going on crazy sales if you are looking for the best bang/buck gaming build.

Crazy times guys. You know it's fucked for Intel when Nvidia is using AMD CPUs in their gaming benchmarks to show improvements! 2021 is the year of Ryzen as Alderlake won't be out until Q4.

I would say Skylake is as a whole Intel's Bulldozer. I mean, AMD also spent years on the exact same platform (outside of the APUs) with little evolution. What Rocket Lake is is not their Bulldozer, but their Centurion.

Speaking of which, nobody got one lying around at home? I would love to see some comparisons of thermals and power draw between the RL i9 and the Centurion.

JEMC said:

Let's hope Alderlake is a turning point for Intel and it's good enough to compete with Zen4. Just like we need competition in the GPU market, we also need competition in the CPU one.

From what we know, Alder Lake's big CPUs are just based on Tiger Lake (Rocket Lake was derived from Ice Lake), so the IPC shouldn't go up that much.

What it can do however, is reverse the trend of current Intel CPUs to be absolute power hogs which need a direct line to the next power plant to run.

My expectation: regaining the gaming crown (unless Zen 4 would come out beforehand), though ever so slightly, and going toe to toe with the 5900X in multitasked applications (not the 5950X because the LITTLE Atom cores don't have hyperthreading, so it's only 24 threads like the 5900X) while staying at it's supposed power limit.

Last edited by Bofferbrauer2 - on 31 March 2021