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SKMBlake said:
Dulfite said:

1. That big userbase, just like the Wii and to a lesser extent PS3, had a bunch of Kinect casuals that were never going to buy th next consol as the One didn't have a casual fad associated with it like that entire generation did. So right off the bat they had less 360 users to draw from than 80 million.

2. The series could have that as well, give it a year or two. In a way they did this strategy at launch with the S.

3. They already have two, I think it's a certainty we will see more in three years. I predict the Z handheld model as well as either an EX upgrade to the X or they do a refresh and make all S/X more powerful with no price increase or new label.

4. That subscription wasn't nearly as appealing as it is this generation. They have added so many studios in the last couple years, and most of those still had/have games coming out on PlayStation when they were bought. Series will have a massive console exclusive advantage over Sony for thr many millions that want to play those games. And the vast, vast majority of people don't have PCs that can handle those games, before someone tries to suggest that will somehow hurt them.

You totally missed my point (especially with point 4 where I was talking about Xbox All Access, not the game pass).

My point was: by 2013, there were a lot of reasons that would've make the Xbox One a success, and sold 50 million overall. In 2021, there are also a lor of reasons that can make the Series a success, but it's not like MS went from lazy console maker in 2013 to marketing genius 7 years later.

You two are pretty much on point. My post was just referring to why they don't need exclusives. You two providing examples of what Microsoft is doing now shows that they will still succeed. You can offer more for your platform that will make it enticing. Exclusives don't matter as much as they used to. They sold 50 Million Xbox One's mainly on brand, services, and accessibility. This is why I think the Xbox Series will sell more than Xbox One. It also really helps they have a $300 console out of the gate. Casuals usually wait for that magic price point to jump on the next console.