Sega nomad was Nintendo Switch in the 90's

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hinch said:

Doctor_MG said:

Do your phone and tablet increase clock speeds when docked in order to provide increased resolutions? Anyway, the phone and tablet argument are ridiculous because they aren't even dedicated gaming consoles. 

The Switch's entire design was based upon it being both. The hardware is mobile hardware because that is the only way to make it both (The PS4 and Xbox One APU's draw too much power to become as portable as the Switch). You're suggesting mobile hardware = a portable game console, but this couldn't be further from the truth (especially when the PS4 and Xbox One consoles are based on laptop chipsets, yet they clearly are not portable consoles). 

The variant point is ridiculous. Is the Vita a home console because of the PS Vita TV? Does the GBA player make the GBA a home console? Heck, if they made a dock only Switch unit would your point become moot? I mean, your last sentence makes it pretty clear that the dockable incentive is driving purchases, meaning people are using the console for more than just portable gaming (there was some statistic out there that showed docked and portable play was almost equal amongst players). 

This isn't even taking into account that Nintendo themselves stated that they consider the Switch to be a home console first and foremost (which you can see from their software lineup). All in all, I just disagree with you. 

He's not wrong though. Switch is primerally a portable device that has ability to be docked. And repeating what Pemalite said.. all the technology in the console derives from mobile; from the SOC to the other components. The system is designed to be portable but has the advantage of displaying on an external display as it comes complete package; dock, cables and other accessories (Joycons).

I mean what do you call a laptop, a hybrid desktop? Nope its a portable PC.

GamingRabbit said:

No, you're getting something wrong.

The question whether switch is a hybrid or not is a hardware question and the clock speeds are entirely software based.

Nintendo could very well remove all limitations tomorrow and the system would still work as intended.

You could argue about the clocks if the switch would actually overclock to a point the internal fan is not enough anymore

and additional cooling - provided by the dock - would be necessary to prevent it from breaking down, but thats not the case.

There is a clear cut difference between portables, hybrids and home consoles and switch is not, and will never be a hybrid if Nintendo continues

the existing design.

The change in cspeed is no different than configuring your laptop to have max brightness when connected to a power source and

lower brightness when running on battery.

Just like how a laptop/smartphone/etc. dont become a tower pc just because you pluged a power adapter, ethernet or hdmi cable in,

the switch doesnt become a home console.

Also portables are allowed to use external displaying units without changing their definition, just like how stationary systems wont change theirs if they use

integrated screens. (Arcademachines, non-gaming machines like switches, old PCs, etc.)

I think both of you are looking for something that simply cannot exist in an effort to dissuade others from accepting the hybrid monicker. Unless there is a huge revolutionary breakthrough in technology, there will not ever be a gaming console that has either separate hardware when docked or a separate cooling system. It simply isn't feasible. Doing so would effectively mean the dock is its own system (and may as well be played separately) as putting hardware in the dock just to connect to the portable unit would cause severe latency issues (due to it being away from the motherboard). Don't even get me started on the functionality of hooking up a new cooling system just for docked play...

Does the technology derive from mobile hardware? Absolutely, but that's a means to an end, not the whole story. Again, you would not be able to include stationary hardware in a portable unit with both a massive product and a massive battery (or short battery life). 

Also, I would absolutely suggest that a laptop has a more hybrid like design, and if tablets/smartphones had been created before laptops we would likely be suggesting they are hybrid units. The reason we dont is because it didn't happen chronologically, not because it wouldn't fit the definition. 

This doesn't even include other hybrid features such as the joycons disconnecting and reattaching as part of the design, games being made for solely portable or docked play, and it's relatively large design (in comparison to almost every other portable made in the last 30 years).