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Kakadu18 on 25 February 2021
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Shadow1980 said:
Kakadu18 said:

People here have shown you graphs proving that certain games do raise the baseline of consoles and you just conveniently ignored them. Most systems got their first price cut after their peak. The Switch never got one. I bought my Switch in 2018 to play BotW, more than a year after the games release and the game was by far the number one reason I got a Switch. Not because there was a price cut. It's not like in Japan in 2020 right after the release of ACNH when sales went down again after the huge spike, they stayed at a way higher baseline to this day. It's not like the Switch sold more every year without getting a price cut, but more games, that have unprecedented legs.

Why would any system sell more in it's second year than in it's first year when it didn't get a price cut yet? A systems sales graphs don't only consist of spikes with every big release and then immediate drops to exactly the same number it sold the week before the games release and no growth from there until the eventual next spike.

The evidence for single games raising the baseline of a consoles sales is any statistical hardware sales graph of any console ever. Any not completely heavily frontloaded system seller leads to people buying the system even months later to play said game.

Tell me, for what game did people buy a Switch in January 2021 or the first half of February? That time period was massively up from last year without any major release. That means the baseline is higher. Why? Maybe evergreens? No? What then?

I ignored nothing. In fact, if you actually read my post you'd see that I addressed them. I pointed out that the graphs were based on VGC data, which may be good if you're looking for a ballpark estimate, but which often has considerable margins of error when compared to "official" sales trackers, at least for monthly/weekly sales (which is why it's widely considered to not be a sufficiently reliable data source). When looking at NPD and Media Create data, that supposed long-term Mario Kart 8 spike for the Wii U that Mnemeth tried to point out doesn't actually exist in the U.S. or Japan. It may or may not exist in Europe, but there's no way to confirm it as there is no publicly available data from official trackers that's granular enough to be of any use.

As for 2021, we haven't gotten NPD numbers yet, but if the Switch is still carrying momentum from last year in the U.S., well, the obvious answer is that demand for consoles is still elevated because of the pandemic, plus there was a $600 stimulus check that most people got. In Japan there was some big gains, and it seems that the culprit was the state of emergency declared in January. The pandemic is still the primary driver of increased demand at this point. People's spending habits have not returned to pre-pandemic levels.

Yeah sure. Only a pandemic or a price cut can lead to a permanent increase in sales. Nothing else. People don't buy consoles for games. They buy consoles because that's what you do in a pandemic and everything that gets a price cut has to be bought solely because of that, there's no other reason.

No price cut, no purchase!

For real, why does it feel like you're just not listening?

Yes, the reasons you named all partially contribute to higher sales, but they are not the sole reason for any console selling better over time.

I won't be answering you anymore, I'm done with your stubbornness, thank you. Bye.