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Chris Hu said:
burninmylight said:

Bruh, this ain't 2002. We don't merely look at big numbers and hand out crowns to whomever has them. Giannis had a better per-36 scoring average than Harden last year. The only reason Harden scored more points is because he played 566 more minutes. I'd mention all of the other stats that Giannis owned Harden in, but I don't have all day, and you wouldn't read them anyway.

But since you say "historical", how many players in the history of the league have ever won both MVP and DPOY? Besides the Greak Freek, two: Hakeem Olujawon about 27 years ago, and Michael Jordan.

The fact that Giannis was even in the discussion for DPOY (something that Harden won't even get in the top 100 of for his position, ever) tells you a lot more about his MVP candidacy than "played a lot of minutes at high usage, chucked a lot of shots and got to the line a million times".

Congratulations on beating me this past weekend. You're as great an NFL predictor as you are a horrible an NBA predictor. ;)

If you want to continue this conversation - and I don't get why, because you either completely ignore stats and factual evidence, base your entire logic on the West being the superior conference, or just ignore me altogether - then please quote me and paste it to an appropriate NBA thread so we don't keep going off topic in here.

I'm just as good at predicting NBA results as NFL results just look at 2020 NBA playoffs thread for the proof.  Also the West is still the dominant conference in the NBA a will be so for a while to come.

Is that why you ignored all of my direct posts to you for two straight years after it became clear that Giannis was clearly the best player in the league two years ago? Don't try to act like you don't know what I'm talking about - I quoted you directly to get your attention, and you were clearly active on VGC, yet hid from me when I gave you the chance to put your money where your mouth is with a bet.

Or do you just ignore most of what I say on principle, since you keep ignoring my request to move this discussion to an NBA thread  if you want to continue it.

And here we go again with this tired and lazy "the West is the dominant conference" again, even though that means nothing when it comes to MVP talk. If you're going to start copy-pasting the same t hing you've said a dozen times that has long since been refuted, then I'll just start copy-pasting my replies.