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Bofferbrauer2 said:
Pemalite said:

Those benchmarks you provided are showing it to be very competitive with AMD's hardware.

Either way, Single core benchmarks where you force an application to run on a single thread aren't even relevant anymore, even web-browsers and office suites use multiple cores these days.
Then again... It is wccftech.

And while you are right that the "rated cable" has increased, that doesn't mean that power consumption has increased, Apple may have wanted a PSU with headroom to allow for degradation in the unit for reliability reasons for example, need actual power consumption numbers and not just basing all your assumptions on PSU wattage.
My PC has an 850w PSU. It will *not* draw 850w.

Lets put things in perspective here... The M1 is in the same league. It will beat AMD Ryzen, it will loose some... And there are scenarios where x86 thanks to it's higher frequency, more bandwidth and larger caches will always hold an advantage.

But we also need to take a look at the multiples performance increase ARM SoC's have had just over the last couple of years where Intel has stagnated... Apples Monolithic ARM core is definitely in a position where it can start replacing x86 chips based on performance alone... And hence why they are making those moves.

Yes, the pace at which ARM got so good is breathtaking and it could surpass x86 in the future. But like I said in the first post, now's not the time yet.

I'm not sure ARM can keep this breakneck speed up for long anymore; since the A75 the performance increases, at least on a per-Watt and per-clock basis, have slowed down considerably. Which is why ARM octacores in smartphones went from 4+4 to 2+6 and now 1+1+6, with one highest performance core, one high performance one and finally 6 economy cores.

Apple isn't using off-the-shelf A75 cores, so it's ultimately a redundant point.

Apple over the last 5 years has increased it's SoC performance by a factor of 2.98x.
Intel? 28%.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/16226/apple-silicon-m1-a14-deep-dive/4


The fact we can even have a discussion about Apple's Firestorm cores in the same context as high-performant x86 cores is a testament to where Apple's SoC performance currently sits... Right up the top with the monolithic x86 chips rather than lumped in with Intel Atoms or AMD Jaguar like what historically happens with ARM SoC's.

Now when talking about your regular ARM SoC's like Snapdragon, that's an entirely different ballgame... Qualcomm isn't able to keep up with Apple, which is why Android has traditionally laggard behind Apple iPhone in terms of absolute performance and energy efficiency.
Android itself probably hasn't helped there either as it's a fairly bloated and inefficient OS all things considered. - Yet I wouldn't own anything but the latest Samsung Galaxy Note...

The iPhone 12 Pro for example can offer 3x the performance of the Galaxy S20 Ultra's Snapdragon 865 in certain CPU tasks, that's a massive divide and showcases what custom silicon can do when leveraged appropriately from a vertically integrated company like Apple.




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