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JRPGfan said:
EricHiggin said:

Trump did say it, because some of the Dems and media were saying it and it was being used against him as if he didn't care because he wasn't saying it. Usually he goes against their slogan's, but because it's true and he also agrees it made sense to use it.

Can't honestly answer that because I don't trust the numbers. When it's been shown that this year the total deaths are in line with what's been normal for the last decade, even though it should be much higher because of covid, I can't help but wonder. Especially when it get's blocked and taken down soon after.

Things like the amount of cold and flu deaths being lower, which isn't a surprise, because if covid is worse then odds are high that some of those people are going to die from covid instead. In which case, if statistically a certain amount in general die every year from the cold and flu, and some of them died of covid instead, why is that being added to the death count, or blamed on anyone else? If they were unfortunately going to pass from one of those illnesses, due to underlying conditions or whatever, why is that someone else's fault? We never say anything about it otherwise.

I will say it's not just about how many. Who matters just as much. There are certain age ranges that are more important to keep healthy in a more hostile outbreak. Gender would also come into play if that ever was a target and the illness was bad enough.

Bullshit.  Eric what you just said is wrong (so either you dont know better, or are lying).

Excess Mortality for the USA back in early october 2020, was up over 300,000 deaths.
This was back when US counted 198,000+ deaths due to Covid19.

Now that offical numbers are roughly ~318,000 deaths...... Im pretty sure excess deaths in the USA is over 480,000.

The thing is, the USA doesnt show the public, its own numbers on stuff like Mortality Excess.
You only get news of it, when someone thats got access to it, speaks about it.
(in alot of european countries, you can actually go view statistics like that, open to the public)

Source: (of my claim, about excess mortality being over 300k back in oct)
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm


Also you shouldn't trust the numbers.
They are higher than the ones reported.
Goverment doesnt want panic, or backlash about handleing of the pandemic, so most go out of their way to rather under-report, than other way around.

Theres proof, of counting changeing after CDC handed it over to the whitehouse HHS department run by Trump.
Without a doubt, Trump people are underplaying it.

The CDC is a federal agency and the last 4 years have shown that the federal government only lies. So can we really trust them?



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