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EnricoPallazzo on 18 December 2020
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curl-6 said:
EricHiggin said:

Yes, but that's a problem as well. You can't say NZ is a shining example of doing it right because they've beat it, then later on explain they hadn't actually beat it. You've just screwed yourself big time by way overexaggerating. Not to mention some people saw that as more of a political statement then a medical one.

How beneficial matters a lot. Just because eating something you don't like will make you a little bit healthier and will indirectly help others a bit isn't going to convince people to change their diet. It has to make a worthwhile difference to them. Having to wear the high end mask to get a reasonable benefit doesn't help either unless the Gov is going to cover that.

NZ has done a much better job than the vast majority of other countries, that's a fact, their cases have been in the single digits for two months, and most of those in managed isolation, not in the community, how many countries can claim that? They effectively have beaten it.

The expert consensus is that masks help, and even if they only partially helped, you'd be crazy to avoid such a tiny inconvenience when there's a chance it could save lives.

 I think what really helps is that they just hard closed their borders. And somehow they were not being attacked for it.

I remember the first thing I thought when the pandemic started was "just close the borders!!!". In UK that never really happened and it was just sad, when Italy was in the middle of a chaos there were daily flights arriving here from Italy, people even filmed them entering the country by Heathrow and not even being asked questions.

Later on before the second wave things were getting better then a lot of people flew to other countries for vacation and then when they came back the rate of infection increased again.

NZ did the right thing, ignored those complaining about closing the borders and the political impact of it and now they just beat it. But just try to open borders again and you will see that it will come back. It is a nasty virus.