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EricHiggin said:
curl-6 said:

No offense, but what you're doing seems to be more putting up as much smoke as possible to obscure what's actually not complicated at all.

No offence taken. I'm not a pyro and don't smoke. Makes life less complicated.

Rab said:

Except the NZ/Australian freedoms are deeper and for everyone including for the old and health compromised, everyone is safer in this form of universal freedom, these countries truly believe the idea that with freedom comes responsibility, and it shows in practice to work beautifully 

"Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin disagrees.

That's out of context and you know it :P

We all give up some "freedom" to be together in a harmonious community, covid has shown some communities are better than others at this, to have absolute freedom means being alone, few including yourself choose that path