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EricHiggin said:
Rab said:

Wow.. NZ and Australia cant control what is happening around the world, at times this disease gets through quarantine, it was expected and planned for, but as a whole those two countries have some of the best conditions for the free movement of people and business in any country because they have tight control of the virus due to the discipline of its people and governments, all this means greater freedoms and safety beyond what other countries can expect or enjoy     

Giving up much freedom to get freedom sooner cancels itself out, no different than giving up a little freedom and dealing with that for a while longer. How it will play out later on, which nobody knows, and how it will effect everything/everyone else, will be what gives a reasonable indication of who did what better.

Except the NZ/Australian freedoms are deeper and for everyone including for the old and health compromised, everyone is safer in this form of universal freedom, these countries truly believe the idea that with freedom comes responsibility, and it shows in practice to work beautifully