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EricHiggin said:
curl-6 said:

The quality of leadership has varied by country, and what we know about the disease has changed as we've learned more about it, but it's the scientific consensus that masks are beneficial, and it has been for some time now.

Yes, but that's a problem as well. You can't say NZ is a shining example of doing it right because they've beat it, then later on explain they hadn't actually beat it. You've just screwed yourself big time by way overexaggerating. Not to mention some people saw that as more of a political statement then a medical one.

How beneficial matters a lot. Just because eating something you don't like will make you a little bit healthier and will indirectly help others a bit isn't going to convince people to change their diet. It has to make a worthwhile difference to them. Having to wear the high end mask to get a reasonable benefit doesn't help either unless the Gov is going to cover that.

Wow.. NZ and Australia cant control what is happening around the world, at times this disease gets through quarantine, it was expected and planned for, but as a whole those two countries have some of the best conditions for the free movement of people and business in any country because they have tight control of the virus due to the discipline of its people and governments, all this means greater freedoms and safety beyond what other countries can expect or enjoy