Cyberpunk 2077 Review Thread | 83 OC, 87 Meta

[DonFerrari]

shikamaru317 said:

DonFerrari said:

I would say on the current state of this game, crashing a lot, bugs all over the place, framerate consistently below 25 and staying a lot even lower than 20, sections where the game stops for 1min, vaseline looks, etc any other game you would have zero problem giving it below 6.

Well you yourself if I'm not wrong have said for you the best PS4 exclusive is GoW and you rated it a 7/10, and for TLOU2 I don't remember you scoring it above 7/10, nor SM. And these games are smoothier, prettier and without bugs and crashes gallore of this game.

So if CDPR wanted the game not to be reviewed based on all these shortcomings they shouldn't have released the game with all of them. You liking the game doesn't make the scores needing to be bigger even with so much flaws. I'm much more concerned with so many critics giving 10/10 even recognizing the game is full of flaws but that they expect those to be corrected at some point, that isn't a fair review at all, that is pandering at best.

The game released on PS4 and X1 shall be evaluated on those systems not on Series X or PS5. Whenever they release those consoles version sure review on those and probably by that time they will have solved most bugs, crashes, performance issues, etc one would hope then the score could be higher.

What you want isn't a fair review, you want everyone giving it a free pass. Just as much as a 6/10 score for the PC version is truly out of the average (and from what I saw and read it is a 85-95 game depending on what you look, and sure you could even defend a 75-80 if the reviewer gave true reasons for it, I doubt it can be defended though), over 6/10 on consoles is the out of average. Because truly the game is broke.

Please defend this shouldn't take major points from the console version:

https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/kcve8s/promised_but_missing_feature_list_will_update/

https://www.wired.com/story/cyberpunk-2077-bugs-reviews-nda/

https://www.ign.com/articles/cyberpunk-2077-refunds-ps4-cd-projekt-red

This is just atrocious.

1. You are talking base console performance, I'm mainly talking about the low scoring reviews on PC, but also from any critics who are playing on PS5 or Xbox Series BC. I can honestly say that I haven't had a single crash on XSX BC so far, worst thing I encountered was a 4 second long freeze-up, which only happened once. The rest of my playtime has been quite smooth, with the bugs being relatively minor stuff (enemy got stuck in a crate once, a few weird physics glitches, AI detecting me through walls a couple of times). Framerate on my XSX quality mode feels like a locked 30 fps to me and looks good too. Surely most of these critics are playing on XSX or PS5 via BC, they will have been sent review units by MS and Sony. It seems strange for a critic to rate a game say 3/10 or 4/10 for issues they aren't experiencing on their own personal playthrough, better to review the game based on your own experience and put a disclaimer on the review letting people know about the issues on base last gen consoles. 

2. I have never played nor reviewed TLOU 2, and I never gave God of War 2018 a 7/10 review (in fact it was my overall game of the year for 2018).

1. There is no PS5/Series version so that shouldn't be used at all to evaluate the PS4 and X1 version, that doesn't make any sense at all. And when you say specially on PC, you are in fact also talking about the console versions. There is only a single review of 81 in metacritic that gives lower than a 6 to Cyberpunk, while there are a lot more that gave it 10 even with all the flaws, some even recognizing they exist and are big.

The game working well for you in Series X doesn't remove the fact that it works very bad on base consoles (that are like 80-90% of the consoles) nor the fact that even on the mid gen they don't work fine at all. So bringing 9th gen running it better in BC to excuse the game isn't acceptable at all (because if we go the gen8 vs gen9 comparison then it is about 160M against 5M so less than 5% of gamers would be getting the experience on gen 9 system).

Have you looked at the system the reviewers have used? Don't mind PC (where yes they should also cover the minimum required on their review, which would certainly tank the scores), but on the consoles review I don't see they saying they played on PS5 or Series X, because again that would be moronic to evaluate the PS4 or X1 version on a different console. And some of then, like IGN, have posted the video of their playthrough and even recognizes that he had a very good time on PC but terrible on base consoles.

You are basically asking reviewers to be dishonest to favor a game you like.

2. Ok. My mistake, mistook you for someone else.

Last edited by DonFerrari - on 17 December 2020