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Mar1217 said:

First, it seems like historically, American brands have been shunned by Europeans (except the UK).

Second, Playstation and Nintendo were already established manufacturers when the Xbox arrived. It might be that most part of the market as grounded itself too much already for Microsoft to hope in a magical breakthrough, except in case of major mess by one of it's rivals (ex. PS3 early on was not a desirable product which led the Xbox to gain massive share but then they reversed in the last gen which made them lose most of their grounding to the PS crowd).

Third, as usual, Microsoft had problem playing with the exclusive titles card which is a cornerstone technique as to why people would basically want your hardware in the first places.

Thats BS.
If anything, I think americans just love to buy american, is part of why xbox does so well in the US.
If america was less biased (towards their own products), you would see xbox vs playstation in the US, be much like in europe.
(I think most europeans, would rather buy american than japanese, if all things where equal, but their not)

Europe isnt anti buying american products.

2nd part is right though. Theres history with Nintendo and playstation.
A late comer, will have to prove it self, and show itself off in a better light than its competition to win market share. MS hasnt done that with Xbox here.
If anything, I think last gen, cemented "just go playstation" mentality.

Americans in threads, please stop the "eu is anti buying american products" excuse, or blame logic.
Its not true, and annouying to run into everytime someone makes a "why doesnt MS sell better in other parts of the world?" thread.

Maybe the issue isnt the entire world? but the US? maybe the reason it does well there, is because americans buy whatever is american instead of other way around? Usually americans dont like to think like this though.

*edit:
Case in point:

RolStoppable said:

There's a general attitude in mainland Europe that is wary of the USA, as opposed to a general attitude in the UK that they rather be closer to the USA than mainland Europe, both politically and economically. This is why the console market of the UK is at odds with the countries of mainland Europe, because the general perception of the USA differs greatly.

From the perspective of mainland Europe, Microsoft is pretty much the poster child of what it means to be American, capitalistic to the degree of being oppressive. If Microsoft can be reasonably avoided, then that's what most people in mainland Europe will do. Xbox has a very similar game catalogue as PS, but it's not of much use even at lower console prices; Xbox tends to have better deals in retail chains, but people would rather pay a little more to get the same games.

There are no special feelings in either direction towards Japanese companies, so Nintendo and Sony carry no baggage like Microsoft. The only noteworthy exception is France which seems rather fond of Japanese culture and entertainment, hence why anime used to be popular in France well before other European countries; so being associated with Japan counts at least as a small advantage instead of being irrelevant.

BS.

People need to stop this. Xbox is just unpopular because it never once really took a lead (with games) and ran with it.
If Xbox consistantly made better games, that were enjoyed by more europeans, then overtime it would start selling more and more.
The fact that it hasnt, is why its getting beat by playstation here.

It has nothing to do with "eu = anti buy us products".

Last edited by JRPGfan - on 13 December 2020