pikashoe said:
I think you aren't understanding what he said. He isn't saying that only 3rd party games sell Sony consoles. He is saying that they contribute to the hardware selling more. If you took gta, fifa, cod and other huge 3rd party games off of ps4 it is likely it would sell less. Which would mean that 1st party games have less people to sell to. |
No, I perfectly understand what he said. That's why I said "not solely". 3rd party games do help, but he's downplaying Sony 1st party titles huge contribution which sold tremendously in a region of not only 10+ million but also 20+ millions, which in turn move many hardware as well. Why 3rd party is the reason PS4 sell more? Why not Sony 1st party? Sony games sold improved a lot especially compare to PS3. I can turn around that/ his statement which can stand true.
I'm not saying that only 1st party games sell Sony consoles. I'm saying that they contribute to the hardware selling more. If you took GoW, Horizon Zero Dawn, Spider-Man, TLoU, Uncharted and other huge 1st party games off of ps4 it is likely it would sell less. Which would mean that 3rd/ 1st party games have less people to sell to.
Just look at Xbox One, they have GTA, FIFA, COD and other huge 3rd party games... but it not even reach half of PS4 total hardware, no need to mention it 1st party titles. DonFerarri sum up what I'm trying to say. Seeing xPhenom08x is banned, I have my opinion on this already.
DonFerrari said:
That is certainly true (but he pretends also that Nintendo IPs sells their consoles, which when you consider the historic isn't true, you can say that Nintendo can only depend on their games to sell their consoles but you can't say that they make the consoles sell as a blanket statement), and he also made the claim in a way that Sony games doesn't have much to do with the console selling well and that without the extra HW sale the sony games wouldn't sell well, in a way that there is more of a net positive of the increase in SW sales by HW sales than a negative of having more competition. Considering the Sony games improved a lot in sales from PS2 to PS3 and again on PS4 with lower HW sales than PS2 and also knowing that the total SW sold on a platform sure have a strong correlation with the total HW sold (tie ratio is fairly close between successful consoles, around 12 SW per HW) the sales of stablished IPs can be observed to not have had the same increase with HW, you can pick most PS or even Nintendo exclusives and see that sure the consoles that had more HW sales those titles also sold better but it is a very light correlation. |
Yes, thank you ? More or less what I want to say.
Last edited by toru_bozu - on 10 December 2020