Intrinsic said:
This is total nonsense. Basically, this is what you are saying... I own a manufacturing company in china, it's called VG manufacturing. I make electronics for over 20 different companies. I pay MY workers minimum wage. Now what you are saying, is that companies like apple/sony/MS should come to me and go; " while we get that you are abiding by your country's laws, we refuse to do business with you unless you pay your workers more money than you are paying them". Does that make any sense to you? When there are other Chinese based companies making similar products and even other companies patronizing me at my minimum-wage based rates. Pls... so you want these companies to price themselves out of the market? Every single damn thing that is made in China is made there for this exact reason, it gives companies a competitive advantage. And I am sorry if I sound upset, but this kinda shit irritates the hell outta me. Nothing I hate more than people trying to act, look or sound smart/informed with a backbone of blatant ignorance. And yes...governments ARE responsible for the low salaries. If the government set the minimum wage at $500/month? Then companies like foxcon would have to pay its workers $500/month. Which in turn would mean it would cost everyone more to make shit in China, and they would just go to India or something. And make no mistake, the Chinese government knows this. China became a world superpower off the back of cheap labor after all. Like what am I reading...so you guys really think it's on these companies to insist to pay more than what the company they are sub-contracting to make their products is paying its own workers? Like are you guys kidding me? Lol... And yet, the fucking consumers would sooner buy a $400 console but would refuse to buy a $600 one? Or a $5 HDMI cable and not a $50 one? Fucking hypocrisy on the worst level lol. |
You don't sound upset, but I'm upset (or at least I'm just as upset) because your reasoning is implying poor countries themselves are the source of their own poverty, when in reality our poverty is much more a byproduct of an global economic system who demand the least industrialized countries to submit themselves into a subservience regime for companies born in richer countries at least until those poorer countries manage to produce their own source of wealth
A very good instance of this in South Korea they are rich now, but it comes at the cost of very low salaries to their citizens during the 60's, 70's, 80's and even 90's
Trying to explain better:
Poor countries have no choice but keep wages low and remove taxes from big industries/companies with they want those industries to stabilish and create jobs in their countries, otherwise those same companies would just go away and find an even poorer country to explore cheap labor
You step trying to paint China (and every third world country) as the responsible for low salaries when in reality we have no choice but accept lower salaries THE INTERNATIONAL MARKET IMPOSE TO US if we want any chance to see foreign industries here. As we can't grown our own competitive industries, at least not when we still poor
Need to point that China is another thing that I despise entirely: A borderline dictatorship where citizens have almost no saying whatever economic policy state decides. Still, I understand what lead the state to make their citizens cheap labour as the country was under poverty line in the 80's they made desperate decisions to lead economy growth, but they were not responsible bu the low income of their citizens and their citizens were already low income in first place
China now has enough money and their own local humungous corporations, so they can afford working on better working laws, but since we are talking about a fucking dictatorship those spcial advances will come much slower than in other east asian countries
