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Azzanation on 26 November 2020
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COKTOE said:
Azzanation said:

We wont know because of this. Its very odd that the moment the Xbox, PS5 and NVIDIA 30 Series were up for Pre-order, they instantly sold out. That's because the systems didn't actually sell out, they were sold to bots which the scalpers go resell at a higher price. Sure, technically the stores have been cleared of stock which is technically selling out, but moving stock from one retailer to another retailer (Scalper) isn't exactly telling us the true story with this new gen.

The article i linked to BlaLod is just one scalper who brought over 3500 PS5s by using a bot generating system to clean out stores in the UK to just resell back to the public.

Instead of blindly praising these events, we should be questioning. These consoles aren't really sold out, you can easily find one on Ebay or Amazon for more than twice the price brand new. 

That's not one scalper. It's an estimate of all the consoles scalpers got a hold of in the UK. I was wondering what you were driving at with your initial post, thinking you may actually be saying the reason for the sellout was due to scalping.......PUUHLEAAESSE. People are constantly trying to get a hold of them. I would be shocked if say, 100,000 units are in the hands of scalpers worldwide. I mean, to go even further, and say 200,000, which is an overly generous figure, that's less than 10% of the window for estimated sales. How you can think those wouldn't have been sold is beyond me. There's no basis to be making such a claim.

I don't make the news, just reporting whats being said. I can say this, in Australia the same issue has arose, no stores have stock but you look online and the stock is on 3rd party sites. Besides i never said it wouldn't have sold out, i just said we wouldn't actually know. Scalpers are buying into thousands and thousands of stock. Also what figures are you going by? How do you know how much stock the scalpers have brought into? 

Did you not hear the issue with pre-ording the systems? Did you not hear all the complaining that people couldn't place a pre-order on pre-order night? Hmmmmmmmmm i wonder why.

Just 1 UK scalper group managed to buy 3500 PS5s, having more stock than some actual online retailers. That's just one group in the UK.