Ka-pi96 said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:
Ka-pi96 said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:
It's not bad at all. Is 200k Yen your budget limit or is that just coincidence?
That said, I would have waited for AMDs RX 6000 GPUs and possibly as well for the 3060Ti. Because from the looks of it, the 3060Ti might be much more bang for the bucks, and the RX 6000 look like they're a real contender this time around.
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No budget per se, that's just a coincidence. Had originally hoped it would be under 100k, but that was how much I aimed to spend when PC was supplementary to consoles. Now it will be my only gaming platform, plus I'll be using it with my new 43 inch TV, rather than a little PC monitor so I don't mind spending more.
Same as above for 3060 ti. How long is the wait likely to be, and how worthwhile would it even be? As for RX6000, how good are they? Looks like they're more expensive and to be honest I've heard nothing but bad things about AMD graphics cards in the past.
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The RX 6800 is more expensive than the 3070, but also somewhat faster by the first benchmarks and comes with 16GB of RAM instead of just 8, which is probably where the price difference comes from. The much more powerful 6800XT is just $80 more expensive and a much better buy, but at that point, we're already $150 above the 3070. If that's too much for you, then the 3070 is a fine choice.
AMD couldn't keep up with Nvidia for about 5-6 years, having been forced to concentrate all their ressources and efforts into the development of the Zen Architecture and thus neglecting their GPU division. That why AMD GPUs got a pretty bad rep, and the GPU mining craze didn't help matters, either. But Navi already significantly closed the gap towards NVidia that accumulated over the years and Big Navi looks like it will beat Ampere. The only real question mark lies with their Raytracing performance, which is expected to be somewhat below that of NVidia, but nobody knows how much of a difference it will make be between the two in that regard the end.
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How would it compare to the 3080 though? I mean, if you're talking about a card that's $150 above the 3070 then that's in the price range of the 3080, so that may as well be in the equation too.
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I'll bring in a slide from AMD's presentation so you can see what the cards achieve in 1440p, which probably will be your resolution of choice:
As you can see, the 6800XT is mostly in front, sometimes slightly behind, sometimes just a tad in front, and sometime in front by a significant lead. And with 16GB VRAM, it certainly won't run into a bottleneck here anytime soon. The 10GB of the 3080 should be good enough in that regard, too, but might run into some limits in a few years time if you don't upgrade your PC on a regular basis.
The 6800XT is supposedly 50 dollar cheaper, but with supply limits and scalpers trying to make money out of the situation, the msrp price can't be guaranteed for either card, so we'll have to see how that shakes out.
Last edited by Bofferbrauer2 - on 14 November 2020
