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vivster said:

Cyran said:
The EK-AIO 360 another one you should look into.

Is there a more exact product description? The ones I looked at are kinda weird and all come with a separate water reservoir, which I'm not a fan of.

Bofferbrauer2 said:

vivster said:

Ok guys, gimme some hard facts now. I need cooling for my 5900X.

No custom water loops.

Air cooling would only be Noctua D15 and nothing else.

AIBs are on the table and prefered. 3x120mm if possible.

Money is irrelevant.

So what should I buy?

be quiet! Pure Loop

Is pretty quiet in it's 2x140mm version (there's also a 2x120mm and 3x120mm versions, but haven't tested those) and cools very efficiently with lots of headroom for overclocking (I know somebody who cooled an overclocked FX 5950 centurion with it). Also, while money is irrelevant to you, it's just 100 Euro.

The 3x120mm version supports 470W TDP, so that should be more than enough for the 5900X

This is for sure gonna be the newest hottest(haha) contender. Didn't know BeQuiet even makes those. Since I already know them and know how freakishly quiet their fans are, this might just be it.

If only they made digital PSUs.

Yeah, I'm using their products where I can for this exact reason. I mean, it's in their name, after all.

Just wish they'd used the Shadow Wings fans on their AIOs instead of Pure Wings, would be even more quiet then. But maybe that will come out as Shadow loop at a later date.

JEMC said:

For those of us more down to Earth, with smaller wallets than some of our colleagues here, this may be interesting, and also a bit baffling:

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 rumored with up to 12GB memory to launch in January
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-rumored-with-up-to-12gb-memory-to-launch-in-january
It would appear that NVIDIA is planning to answer next-gen Radeon graphics cards increasing memory capacities. The manufacturer has recently provided a new roadmap with upcoming products to its board partners, going as far as January.

Four GeForce SKUs in January 

We have already confirmed that NVIDIA is planning to launch its GeForce RTX 3080 Ti in January, however, this high-end SKU is not the only model being planned for this month. In January NVIDIA is also planning to launch GeForce RTX 3060, RTX 3050 Ti, and RTX 3050. The 3050 Ti was originally planned for February, but it appears that the plans have been changed recently.

GeForce RTX 3060

At least four variants of PG190 board design have discussed internally. It would appear that this board will be pin-compatible with both GA104 and GA106 GPUs. We already knew that the upcoming RTX 3060 Ti is using this board. NVIDIA also confirmed to AIBs that PG190 will be adopted by both RTX 3060 and RTX 3050 Ti. Those graphics cards will feature GA106 GPU.

When it comes to RTX 3060 specifically, NVIDIA has recently updated the PG190 SKU 30 board (RTX 3060 6GB 14Gbps) to PG190 SKU 40 (6GB 16Gbps). Only to update it last week to PG190 SKU 50, now featuring 12GB 16Gbps configuration. All these SKUs have different memory configurations. The changes to the CUDA core count (3840) are not listed and thus not expected.

GeForce RTX 3050 and RTX 3050 Ti

The cut-down GA106 GPU (GA106-300) will be used by GeForce RTX 3050 Ti. This card will also have a 192-bit memory bus, but the memory capacity is expected at 6GB. The graphics card is rumored to offer 3584 CUDA cores.

Lastly, the RTX 3050 is rumored to use a cut-down GA107 GPU. This is an entry-level SKU expected to ship with 2304 CUDA cores. Right now, NVIDIA is planning 4GB GDDR6 memory for this SKU (the GPU has a 128-bit bus). A leaker Koptite7kimi recently posted that this card will have a TGP of 90W.

There's a chance we could get a 3060 cerd with more memory than a more expensive 3070. Or maybe not, maybe they'll rethink it and cancel that sku like they cancelled the 16 and 20GB versions of the higher end cards.

I do expect the 12GB 3060(Ti) GPUs to only come in limited numbers, atleast until GDDR6X has gotten cheaper and the production capacity has catched up to their demands - which I don't expect to happen any sooner than summer next year.

On the other hand, considering the meager difference between the 3060 and 3050Ti (3840 vs 3584 Cuda cores, so only 8% less in that regard), the 12GB would be able to make all the difference here on the longer run. I'm fully expecting the 3050Ti to become NVidia's volume card for this generation due to being much more affordable than the bigger cards but also powerful enough to keep up in most games, so exactly what OEMs are looking for.

Either way, the 3060 is in a weird and bad position. Too little power advantage against the 3050Ti out of the box and with 12GB getting into the price range of the next bigger card means that both the 3050Ti and the 3070 will eat up most of it's market share. It certainly won't reach those 15% the 1060 had on steam with such a narrow market for itself.