iron_megalith said:
Not really. You were refuting his opinion that the democrats do not have control over the news narrative which is hard sell considering the obvious bias that's been going around.
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Yarly.
First off, stop adding in words and changing the argument. Control over the media is not control over the news narrative (although I don't think you've demonstrated that democrats control either). Meanwhile, I never said anything about the mainstream media, mainly cause I'm still not sure what that is. The biggest TV news source isn't considered mainstream, so who the hell knows. But whatever it is. it's obviously a smaller subset of "media", so the change of wording drastically changes the argument. If democrats control "the mainstream media" it does not mean they control "the media". Read the actual words I'm saying. Nothing more, nothing less.
We'll assume for the sake of argument that all news outlets run by democrats are biased. That has nothing to do with whether or not democrats control the media. They control the media outlets they own (by definition), but don't control the many media outlets they don't control. Which is like, duh.
Controlling the media would mean that they exert dominance such that they could set the standard for the entire media, or at least a massively outsized portion of it.
Let's take a quick look at realclear politics' frontpage...
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/
Some of the headlines on their front page...
PA Rally: Trump Is 'For Our Jobs', Biden's Against Them
After Biden Exposés, Some Early Voters Seek to Change Vote
I'm a Suburban Mom Proud to Vote for Trump
Trump's Agenda: Then, Now and in the Future?
7 Leftist Threats That Political Terror Is Coming to U.S
Trump Racks Up Peace Agreements, Starts No New Wars
Data Shows Climate Hysteria Isn't Grounded in Science
By comparison there are 7 unambiguously pro democratic stories. Just about the same amount.
So, Democrats obviously don't control RealClearPolitics, nor do they control any of the sites producing these articles (RCP for the most part just collects it). Or, if they do control it, they are graciously allowing all of these stories to be published. Conservative media as a whole seems to be doing just fine.
Whether or not sources that actually are controlled by democrats are biased has nothing to do with whether they control the media, or whether Fox News is the only "official" republican news source, which is the context from which you took my statement. Democrats could control the media and not be biased, or could not control the media and be very biased. They're not the same things, no matter how badly you want them to be.
At no point did I say that there aren't "a lot" of "mainstream media sources" that "have an obvious lefty slant and bias". Whether or not I'd agree with that statement depends on how you define those terms. If you understood it that way, you have been corrected. I don't know how you possibly could have misunderstood, since the post you quoted clearly explained why I don't agree that democrats control the media, but either way, stop attacking the strawman. I'm really uninterested in defending a position I don't hold.
