Future of Physical Media in consoles - end of disks?

[Shiken]

DPsx7 said:

TheBraveGallade said:
I never stated that a disc cannot fit the entirety of a game. with 4k blu ray everything this gen and probably the next one will have enough room to fit in at least 2 discs.

the issue is that discs will never go back to plug and play, plus reading then writing to the INTERNAL SSD is going to take a while, not to mention the hassle when you have to make room for it.

at that point might as well go for a 128GB, 80$, plug and play cart for phisical.

I dunno if new tech will push discs back into 'plug and play' or if carts will become too slow as well. No matter what that isn't the reason to keep physical formats. It's so much more like we've stated.

Shiken said:

Wow I don't even know what you are trying to do anymore on the gamepass topic.  You really need to check your definition of a big title of you think DOOM is the only potential loss.  But lets play devil's advocate here, even if Bethesda games do come to PS (they likely won't), they will still be day 1 on gamepass.  Your definition of gamepass is a joke and only serves to point out a bias against MS, or at the very least you would recognize the incredible value it serves without your sad downplay.

In fact, this isn't even about digital sales for you anymore it seems.

And a side note, no one said the market was ready for all digital.  I said they are easing us into it with digital only consoles, digital services with amazing value, and a younger generation that finds physical games a hassle overall (making them easier to mold).  The shift to all digital won't happen overnight, hell probably not even in next gen.  But it will happen in our lifetime.  It only becomes more evident as time goes on.

Why are you pushing that so hard? You can't tell me with a straight face any of the rest are major. Fallout isn't what it once was. Wolf is good but B-list. Hated Enemy Within (went in expecting something different). Stanfield?

I'm sure they will, maybe new franchises won't. I mean I don't play Minecraft but that's not exclusive. Anything worth playing will come to other platforms. Cuphead is on PS4. Ori is on Switch. Tomb Raider landed back on PS4. Nothing is lost. Day one means nothing, I've got like 12 months of a backlog and rarely buy games before they drop in price.

Oh it still is. You're eager for this rental service to eliminate discs with your idea of digital outselling physical. I'm just saying that's not true. You'd have something to argue with if I turned around and raved about PS Now or Nin's virtual console. I don't use those either.

Easing how though? Where's the other all-digital XB? Ouya, PSP Go, Stadia - all duds. Wasn't that long ago people swore mobile was going to destroy consoles. Nope. Lol, you sound like someone else I've had this chat with. They too admitted it won't happen overnight, and probably not for a long time. It's clear our infrastructure wouldn't handle that kind of load. Every gamer all the time? Don't act like ISP's will play nice, that's not their shtick. Lots of rural gamers don't yet have a reliable connection.

Dude, I am calling out your downplay of gamepass because it is has a lot of value and your desperate attempts to go against that notion is pathetic.  It is almost like you feel threatened by it.  I never said that, "a rental service will eliminate physical games."  You are putting words in my mouth.  I said that services like Gamepass, along with other factors together, will help push digital media.

And are you really using 3rd party games like Tomb Raider and Cuphead to argue that Bethesda games (1st party now) will still come over?  Or how Minecraft already existed on PS4 before it was bought?  Dude that logic is wrong on so many levels.  I am not going into why MS doesn't need to release their games on PS again (I could care less), I have already been over that in other threads.  It seems like when it comes to MS, you would rather cover your ears and pretend that your own opinions are somehow law.  That is the only way someone could say with a straight face Fallout, Elder Scrolls, and Starfield (due to the hype) are not big IPs along with some of your other talk about gamepass.

If that somehow translates to me saying gamepass will kill physical games, read it again slowly.  Your comprehension is off.  As far as the other stuff about physical media, as I said I hope you are right.  I have always been against a digital future.  I would just rather be realistic and be pleasantly suprised, than be hopeful and be let down.