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RolStoppable said:
eva01beserk said:

How, for most of 25 years the playstation has remained dominat in the US. The only outlier here was the ps360 gen. Aside from that, the ps4 took a lot of its mindshare back. one out of four is not a good metric t claim this. You can say that the US is the more balanced region with the less biase. I would agree. The rest of the world aside from the UK have made their minds and are not changing.

And no, exclusives dint lead the power narrative at the begining of the ps360 gen. It sure did at the end of the gen when sony had their shit toghether and their games looked far better and games like the last of us looked better than anything at the time. Multiplats by then where almost on par, while at the begining the 360 had a very big lead.

But they dont dominate the top 10. If you look at this site then you might think that as charts are not updated it seems. but look ad unchaarted, official sony released data sais they are avove 16m. Its cnsidered to be the #2 before gtav. games like horizon god or war and spiderman also chart in the top 10 when adjusted. Where exactly, I cant say I know as other big third partys could also need adjusting. But aside from that and Read dead redemption 2, its littered with fifas and COD. Not ssaying that people buy playsation for its exclusives alone like they do nnintendo, but they sure have a big impact and I would say top priority unlike for the xbox. WHere you use the top 10 it will look good for sony, but if you go higher there are just a lot more releases by third partys than sony alone.

I would never   buy a digital console, I would not even buy digital games. But to say that the digital console is gimped is just absurd. While it sucks the fact is that the younger gamers are moving more and more digital. Dint they report that like 50% of gaamers are digital only just a while back? What is gimped is a weaker console that is basicly planed obsolence and will most liekly remaine on the market untill a slim of the real console shows up in a couple of years. Some are even speculating that some debs will make games excluding the S cuz they dont want their games gimped. Will sony limit their digigtal because they dont want to loose money? I agree, I cnt inmagine just how much they are loosing per unit. Still it gives them the cost narrative as that is atractive to 50% of the population or so. 

PS has only been dominant in the USA with the PS1 and PS2. The PS3 was a clear loss and the PS4 merely won by beating the XB1 with an average of less than 1m units per year. It really only takes a few millions to switch from PS to Xbox to make the XSX|S sell better than the PS5 in the USA.

You basically conceded the point about the power narrative, so nothing more for me to say here.

I am not looking at this site's numbers because I know that they haven't been updated. But it's safe to say that CoD has kept selling 10m+ copies on the PS4, so in order for a game to be in the top 10, 10m must be the absolute minimum. There are only four Sony games that have reached that mark (Uncharted 4, Horizon, God of War, Spider-Man), so best case is four Sony games in the top 10. If we extended the list to top 20, we'd likely have five Sony games at best, because there's a notable dropoff from Sony's heavy hitters to their remaining games. What's true is that Sony's exclusives have had a bigger impact than Microsoft's lackluster first party over the course of the generation, but all the big PS4 games from Sony didn't arrive until the generation had long been decided by having the better multiplatform games. Note that my point has not been that exclusives are not important, but rather that exclusives are less important than how multiplatform games perform.

The ~50% was about how many recent game sales have been digital, but does not indicate how many gamers would be fine with a digital-only console. Aside from that, I don't think this point about cost narrative will progress any further, so let's make it quick and agree to disagree on that one.

We seem to be making the same arguments. Just that I believe it will be to late by the time MS implements.



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