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vivster said:
numberwang said:

Covid deaths are probably overestimated considering the inflated method of counting every deaths with a positive pcr test regardless of underlying conditions. Many countries have too many 'covid deaths' with not enough total excess mortality as a match. Total global infections is based on antibody tests and should be quite reliable.

The US is again predicted to be back at baseline total mortality (graph ends October 3) even though we still have many 'covid involved death' papers.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

Any source for the "too many covid deaths with not enough total excess mortality as a match"? The graph you posted clearly shows noticeably elevated deaths still and that is with all other causes of death being down due to COVID measures.

Not sure what point you're trying to make here but even without testing results the excess deaths show clearly that COVID is many times more deadly than the flu and that is WITH unprecedented measures to combat it.

I am talking about the countries mentioned before (for example in central and northern Europe and nearly all of Eastern Europe) with fewer deaths in 2020 compared to previous years while producing covid deaths certificates.

https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/#

This database contains some more countries (like Eastern Europe):

https://mpidr.shinyapps.io/stmortality/

Last edited by numberwang - on 15 October 2020