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RolStoppable said:
eva01beserk said:

Did I reply in the wrong thread? My bad. But they are almost inseparable so its an easy mistake. Even now im thinking that its gona be hard to respond without making it about xbox.

OK but you think gamers with that big friend list that already are stablished on playstation are sudenly gona jump because of power?  I highly doubt that. I can see them definetly them owining both consoles and then eventually focusing on the xbox cuz it could give them a  better experience on it on all thouse multy platform games. Again, something that wont start afecting untill later in the cycle cuz most multyplatform owners dont buy both at launch.

But MS does not have the price advantage. The ps5 D is still $100 less expensive than the xsx. Maybe MS can release one later without the disc drive, but right now they dont have it. 

And thats the thing about exclusives, they also lead the power narrative. While we can all agree that the xbox will have the most powerfull hardware in a lot of games. At the begining thouse games will be crossgen so both consoles will max out thouse games. Then the exclusives will shine britest among basicly 8th gen ports. Lest just look back at dirt 5 gameplay the other day. People where not impress at all. They where not impreesed with halo and they wont be with other crossgen games. But they where impresed with spidermar, horizon, demon souls and ratchet and clank. Because they pushed the consoles. Again, that will change later in the  life cycle of theese consoles. But again, will that be to late?

Xbox all acces is definetly an advantage. People love their payment plans. Shame its so limited. There are regions that would benefit more from this plan than the ones that it curreently releasing on. Back in my country consoles are like 2x the price. People would go crazzy for this.

Multy platform games are the highest selling only counting all releases. If you look per console only fifa and COD are the ones who chart at the top. Most of the top selling titles on Playstationare are its exclusives. Very few multyplats sell more than its top exclusives. And just look at nintendo. There just arent many multyplats that sell above 10m on any single patform. While sony and nintendo have many. Some of nintendos have gone over 20m. 

No, it's not the wrong thread. I merely explained why I didn't go into more detail for the Xbox side here.

The US market in particular has shown no clear console brand alliance over the generations, so yes, you should expect millions to go to the console with the best multiplats, resulting in XSX|S selling more than the PS5 lifetime in the states. Exclusives didn't lead the power narrative when the Xbox 360 had better multiplats than the PS3. It's only logical that multiplats define the narrative for multiplats.

Most of the PS4's best-selling games have been multiplats. The yearly FIFAs and CoDs dominate the top 10, then you have individual titles like GTA V and RDR2, and a bunch of other multiplats. A few Sony first party games sprinkled into the top 10, top 30 or top 50 (whichever cutoff you prefer) don't mean that exclusives are the main draw of PlayStation. Sony is a lot closer to Microsoft than they are to Nintendo.

Consoles without disc drives are gimped. It's not smart in the long run to lock yourself out of physical games, because that's a lot of deals you won't be able to take advantage of. The problem with the PS5 Digital Edition is also that Sony will lose a lot of money on it, so they'll produce it in far lower numbers than the regular PS5 and therefore it wouldn't be surprising if it's regularly out of stock in case there's actual demand for it. Microsoft's approach here is better. They give you either a cheap console (Series S) that they don't need to limit production off, or offer you a monthly payment plan for either the Series S or X that already includes online multiplayer and Game Pass.

How, for most of 25 years the playstation has remained dominat in the US. The only outlier here was the ps360 gen. Aside from that, the ps4 took a lot of its mindshare back. one out of four is not a good metric t claim this. You can say that the US is the more balanced region with the less biase. I would agree. The rest of the world aside from the UK have made their minds and are not changing.

And no, exclusives dint lead the power narrative at the begining of the ps360 gen. It sure did at the end of the gen when sony had their shit toghether and their games looked far better and games like the last of us looked better than anything at the time. Multiplats by then where almost on par, while at the begining the 360 had a very big lead.

But they dont dominate the top 10. If you look at this site then you might think that as charts are not updated it seems. but look ad unchaarted, official sony released data sais they are avove 16m. Its cnsidered to be the #2 before gtav. games like horizon god or war and spiderman also chart in the top 10 when adjusted. Where exactly, I cant say I know as other big third partys could also need adjusting. But aside from that and Read dead redemption 2, its littered with fifas and COD. Not ssaying that people buy playsation for its exclusives alone like they do nnintendo, but they sure have a big impact and I would say top priority unlike for the xbox. WHere you use the top 10 it will look good for sony, but if you go higher there are just a lot more releases by third partys than sony alone.

I would never   buy a digital console, I would not even buy digital games. But to say that the digital console is gimped is just absurd. While it sucks the fact is that the younger gamers are moving more and more digital. Dint they report that like 50% of gaamers are digital only just a while back? What is gimped is a weaker console that is basicly planed obsolence and will most liekly remaine on the market untill a slim of the real console shows up in a couple of years. Some are even speculating that some debs will make games excluding the S cuz they dont want their games gimped. Will sony limit their digigtal because they dont want to loose money? I agree, I cnt inmagine just how much they are loosing per unit. Still it gives them the cost narrative as that is atractive to 50% of the population or so. 



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