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JWeinCom on 04 October 2020
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SanAndreasX said:
Hiku said:

It's not that anything goes against public figures, but there's more leeway there. We draw the line closer when it's attacks on members that they can read.

We have to take a middle road here: If Trump is responsible, are the state governors not also responsible? Are the local governments not also responsible? 
No he hasn't handled this pandemic perfectly, but if we blame him for everything wrong, then we should also praise him for everything good that has happened in the last 4 years. It's just not reasonable. 

Of course, local government are also responsible.
When it comes to Trump, I don't think people are blaming him for everything wrong. Only the things he lied about, the information he withheld (see Woodward's report), the misinformation he spread, anti-mask rhetoric, cutting down/disbanding pandemic prevention/response programs in 2018 and 2019, etc.

And when it comes to the subject of death it can be hard to find positive comparisons.

Even when local government did act, Trump's administration did everything they could to undermine the efforts of local government when he didn't agree with them, i.e. when he saw a threat to the economy that could bite him in the butt in November. 

Ultimately a pandemic is a national crisis that demands a national response. Not a bunch of piecemeal responses interspersed with indifference. The virus doesn't care about state or county lines. Trump should have been front and center. Instead, he wanted to play both sides against the middle for his own gain.

In the United States, the buck stops at the President's desk. Or at least it used to. This president has been incompetent and useless at best, and outright malicious at worst. The ultimate responsibility for this mess belongs to him. He has failed.

Keeping Americans in Benghazi safe was Hillary Clinton's job. When Americans died they rightfully investigated to see if she could have done things differently and to what extent it was her fault. And while they probably over investigated, it was 100% correct to assess whether she was accountable. 

All I ask is that the same standards be applied to Donald Trump. Once this is over, whether or not his actions endangered American lives should be investigated with the same level of scrutiny. If it is found that his actions did lead to American deaths that could have been avoided, he should be accountable. I'd say, treason charges would be appropriate, but I'm not a legal expert.