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Immersiveunreality on 04 October 2020
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mZuzek said:
Ka-pi96 said:

I learnt about the strikes and action that led to the UK having decent labour laws. I learnt about the shitty conditions that people had before that too. Although I believe the US still has crappy labour laws, so this isn't just a "first world" thing. Which is also kind of ironic when you're saying "that's how capitalism works" while I'm sure there are a whole load of Americans who'd call decent labour laws (as in Europe) "communism".

Plus third world countries aren't necessarily "poor" and it's not always first world countries exploiting them either. Just look at all of the countries where the average person is super poor but the ruling elite are super wealthy. I know very little about Brazil, but it's a democracy so assuming the same is true there then the average citizen can have more of an impact without needing to even go out of their way that much than the people in one of those third world dictatorships ever could at least.

Love how you talk about third world dictatorships like it's unrelated to Brazil. Yeah, we're in a democracy right now, but with each passing day it feels less and less like it. The people in power don't really give a shit. Burning down the rainforest is a crime and everyone (well, mostly everyone...) is against it, but at the end of the day it's happening and there's nothing anyone can do about it. It's down to the government to stop them, do they? Of course not, it fills their pockets. Homicide is also a crime and our president has already stated in favour of killing people multiple times, he's also trying to make it so people can legally own guns in the country. They can do whatever the fuck they want.

Sure, it's a democracy, we could have just not elected him! Except, you know... the average citizen gets 1 vote. If that 1 vote doesn't decide the election, then no, the average citizen has no power to change any of this. The best an average citizen can do is try to spread the word and convince everyone they know to change their votes. That can't and won't ever come close to matching the power of rich people manipulating social media at a national scale.

I'm so sick of the eternal fingerpointing to Brazil and the rainforest,it is so hypocritical when everyone knows it will not be stopped and almost no countries are investing to counter the destruction of those trees. We are like 50 years behind in making a global effort of planting new trees en masse.