| Cerebralbore101 said: You are comparing apples and oranges here. Sony buying Insomniac which almost exclusively made games for Sony consoles, is not the same as MS buying Bethesda, which has been entirely multiplatform for 14 years. Then, when people call you out on false equivalence you claim they are moving the goalposts. |
It is the same thing, it's a multi billion dollar company buying another studio(s) and becoming the owner of that studios IP's. You can argue the scale or effect of the ZeniMax move is bigger, that Insomniac had a close relationship with Sony prior, etc etc, that's where the whole goal post shifting comes into play. None of it is really relevant. At the end of the day it's one of the big three purchasing talent and IP's.
| Cerebralbore101 said: Inxile made a name for themselves with Wasteland 2 in 2014. They aren't all that unknown. |
I agree, but funny that around here the acquisition was met with a shrug as no one knew who they were or expected anything from them.
| Cerebralbore101 said: I fully support MS building up their own home grown stuff. Initiative, Compulsion, and Rare all have potential to become better studios. But remember that the first Killzone wasn't all that good. It takes years to take a studio from mediocre to good. |
I think we call support any publisher building their own studios from the ground up. Which all of them have been doing. But Sony and MS both also go out and buy talent. It's no different than professional sports. A team can draft a young linebacker and groom him for a couple years and grow him into a quality starter, or they can go out and pay a free agent to come in and immediately start. Everyone tries to do both. Sony and MS are doing both.
| Cerebralbore101 said: The problem I have with MS is that they engage in the Sophistry of claiming that "exclusives are evil" just because their 1st party lineup is lacking. They then go on to release lackluster 1st party games to Gamepass, while Phil Spencer runs his mouth, about how those games really are "good". |
What does their philosophy regarding exclusives have to do with your perceived quality of their first party lineup? So when/if this acquisition becomes finalized, they'll arguably have the strongest first party stable of studios. Do you expect them to stop saying the player is at the center of their focus, not the device? That all of their games won't continue to work across Xbox, PC, and xCloud? Because if their stance regarding exclusives were as fickle as you think, it seems like they'd stop saying it and stop putting all their games on multiple devices right about... now?
Also you sound kind of goopalicious with your comment regarding lackluster GamePass games. What do you consider to be "lackluster"? MS has released plenty of good/great games on the service and some that were not met well by critics. Let's assume anything less than a 70 meta is "lackluster" to you. That makes games like State of Decay 2, Bleeding Edge, Crackdown 3, and Sea of Thieves lackluster. But what about Ori 2? Horizon 4? Gears Tactics? Wasteland 3? Gears 5? Tell Me Why? Hell, even Battletoads ended up above a 70. Minecraft Dungeons? etc etc. And how far back are we going? Because if you want to include the entire history of Gears and Halo, well, that's a lot more titles that are far from "lackluster".
| Cerebralbore101 said: They rarely release full sales data, and incur the Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy instead. "This game has X amount of players on Gamepass" "This game sold X amount in the first week". Nevermind that the game sold poorly overall. They just focus in on whatever data set happens to make them look good. |
Sounds a lot like what Sony was doing during the PS Vita era. I mean, you're actually criticizing a corporation for generic PR here.
Not really aimed at you, but I don't get the double standards here. If ZeniMax were to sell to either Sony or MS, we should be happy it was MS because at least we know PC users can still play the stuff. And as we were told over and over and over again on this site, that makes it not exclusive and makes it ok because, like, everyone has a gaming PC.
