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Intrinsic said:
goopy20 said:

I think we shouldn't have to debate whether a game looks next gen or not. We should immediately notice a true generational leap in games and it should be self explanatory why those games wouldn't work on the consoles we already have. Isn't that's the whole point of a new console generation and why not many people upgraded to a mid-gen console?

So far both MS and Sony have done a lackluster job tapping into that next gen magic. MS has told us that their strategy revolves around the player, not the device. Whereas Sony's been telling us all this time they do believe in generation and are doing a complete reset. Sure fanboys can be idiots and I've been banned plenty of times myself for expressing my concerns. Call it concern trolling but the only reason I've been ranting so much is because I don't believe everything scales. I don't believe we'll see true next gen games when developers constantly have to ask themselves "will this work on a jaguar tablet cpu and HDD too?" I believe we should demand both companies to 'wow' and convince us why we should trade in the perfectly fine console we already have and spend $500 bucks on a new one  

Sony seemed to get it when they showed us things like the UE5 demo, Ratchet and HFW. And now Sony guys are all pissed that they seem to backpaddling and do the same thing that got people (like me) to shit on MS so much. 

Two things...

One, I wouldn't put any stock into anyone backpedaling on HFW/SM because they are now known to be cross-gen. Because when the PS5 version of those games were or has been shown not a single person said they didn't look up to snuff. It's a very different thing when looking at Halo infinite in comparison. Or people talking about features that may not be in the as-yet-unreleased HFW game due to PS4 holding it back. How do they know that?

Two, diminishing returns is a thing. You can only make certain things look so good. Take a look at any of the best looking games on the PS4, while compared to first-gen PS5 games you can already see improvements, truth is that its not a night and day difference. It looks obviously better, but not generationally better. And this would be significantly worse when the PS6/XSX2 comes along. Look 6 years ahead and think of whatever the best the PS5/XSX would have to offer, then try thinking about something coming next-next-gen that would put that to shame. Just not gonna happen. 

An example I used before, you can only throw so many polygons and textures at a ball to make it look like a ball. At some int, no matter how many polygons more you add, or how much higher your texture rez is, its not going to make a difference.

Maybe you're right and it would be pretty disappointing if things can't get that much better then what we have now. Still, this looks a true generational leap to me. I think when it comes to stuff like level design, asset variation, world simulations, physics, RT there's still lots of room for improvement.

Last edited by goopy20 - on 20 September 2020