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Runa216 said:

Again, while you and I appear to agree in most ways, I have to say...this statement is so, SO wrong. Yes, parents DO buy cheaper things all the time. It's a well-known issue, one I dealt with many times myself and I know others have as well. To be fair, on the opposite side, parents today are the grown up versions of the kids that got this treatment so maybe they're better equipped? I dunno. 

all I know is that this IS a real issue, it DOES happen, and it'd be disingenuous to disregard that reality. 

Fair enough, then I stand corrected.

Either way though, I don't see parents buying a console for their kids bein he ones doing the bulk of the purchasing during a launch window.

RolStoppable said:

This reminds me of seven years ago when people found it hard to believe that the PS4 could beat the XB1 in the USA, because the 360 outsold the PS3 by more than 15m units.

It's no surprise that Microsoft couldn't beat Sony during the past seven years because that's the timeframe of a generation where Microsoft had a garbage console. Microsoft messed up tremendously, but in the end the XB1 will be less than 10m behind the PS4 in the USA. That should tell you that Americans like to buy Xbox. So if the XSX|S happens to be the better console and the better deal, what's going to happen in the country that likes to shout "America first"?  They'll prefer the American box for sure. Not by as big of a margin as the 360 over the PS3 because Sony won't mess up with the PS5 like they did with the PS3, but Microsoft will be ahead nonetheless.

Honestly, it won't surprise me if PS5 loses to Xbox in NA, but I believe that at the very worst it would be close enough to be a tie. And maybe the UK too. That's saying that doesn't necessarily bode well for the Xbox. If Xbox sells as much as the PS4 sold this gen in both NA and the UK, that only raises their total sales at the end of next-gen by around 9M.

That's like saying what? Xbox sells 60M and PS5 ends up selling only 110M?

PAOerfulone said:

Well shit.

Fuck...

I was kinda expecting it though.