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Intrinsic said:
sales2099 said:

appealing at all. 

Yes... if by the quantity of titles available you see value in that there is no question there. But as I would always say with things like these, stuff like this is subjective. And is only an issue when people or anyone try and make them appear bigger than they actually are based on their preferences. 

Take for instance, you can say pay $15 for Gampass + XBL gold ($180/yr) and get access to a library of xyz games that would be added to each month as long as you stay subscribed, and I could say, pay $60/year for PS+ and get 4 free games every month for a total of 48 games every year. We can start talking about who or what offers more value. And thats where the subjective part comes in.

There are places I can go and get a LOT of food for $5, but that means nothing to me if I am only interested in food from the place that costs $10 but it offers less food.

YOu like most others (and this happens at the start of every gen) seem to think Gamepas (thats the form this phenomenon has taken this gen) is going to be a lot more than it's going to be. Because "on paper" it just seems to make sense. And will think its the best thing to happen since sliced bread. That's your opinion, and I respect that, I just don't agree with it. I think people care a lot less for it than you think, especially being that this is something that's been there for the at 3 years. Its not like its a new thing. And thats the pro backing what I am saying. What difference has it made in the current-gen thus far? And why do you now think that it would suddenly make all the difference with next-gen?

Why? any argument or case that can be made for GP for next-gen, can also be made for it for current-gen. Unless you really believe that GP couldn't sell XB1s cause everyone already had a PS4 and thus didn't need to buy a new console. And to that, I would say since GP started in 2017, sony has gone on to sell 50M+ more PS4s.

GamingRabbit said:

My guess is:
XBox Series S outsells PS5 all digital
PS5 (disc drive) outsells XBox Series X
PS5 disc + digital combined outsell XBox Series X + S combined

Live Gold also gives you 4 free games per month on top of GP but I see your point. It’s just hard to see how all it offers just doesn’t appeal to someone, more often then not if you can find at least a few-several games to play every year, depending on how new they are you allready made the sub worth while. 

And sure you prefer PS exclusives. Nothing wrong with that. That’s not value paying full price. That’s standard industry practice paying full price to play a game. Value is getting more for the money you pay. So when you get more things bundled at no extra charge, that’s the very definition as opposed to doing what gamers have been doing for decades. 

Like you said it’s unfortunate it’s climbing against the popular trend with PlayStation being the dominant brand for several years. Doesn’t matter how good a service is sometimes when the competition has the mindshare. 

Last edited by sales2099 - on 10 September 2020

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