If Xbox Series S is 100$ cheaper than PS5 All-Digital, does Xbox have a legitimate chance of outselling PS5 this gen?

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Runa216 said:

eva01beserk said:

You definetly have quantity part of the equation, but quality is not the same for everyone. Like You yourself have admited not everything has 100% penetration. I already used me as an example of why a person like me sees no value in gamepass. I would rather use that $180 a year in 3 games I know im going to like. So you saying now 200 games still means nothing for me if I still have no interest in any of them. 

You really cant take bias out of it wich is the thing. There are people that I know whos only reason to own a console is fifa. I kid you not but they only play fifa all year round. for them as well this means absolutly zero even with EA play, because it only adds the fifa from the previous year and a super fan will buy the latest fifa. Because thats the issue with yearly titles, as soon as the new version is out, the old one just dies on the spot. That for me is the main issue with gamepass. for me if they have big games that I would like, I probably already played it. I work and have family comitmets and other shit, I dont have time to play indy or other smaller games so for me only the big hitters matter. And im willing to bet that gaming demographic has shifted to where the main console gamers are in their 20's and 30's. So they are more likely to be in my situation. They would also be working so they have more tolerance of what value is considered. 

So far the only garanty market gamepass has in my opinion is children. And I will say that if that is the  case that will put a big quation mark on the type of games that MS will push with that demographic. 

I wouldn't get too involved with him. He's not a bad person but like 99% of his posts are him bending over backwards to sell people on Xbox and GamePass. He's allowed to have his opinions and preferences, but man he pushes them super duper hard. 

The reality of the situation is that if GamePass was a selling point for Xbox, or price, or backwards compatibility, the Xbox One would have sold a lot better. That's just the fact of the matter. These are all good things, to be sure, but it's games that sell consoles. Gamepass is a good deal...but not for people who already own games. I have like 300 Gen 8 games between PS4, Switch, and Xbox One (Many are duplicates across generations and digital/physical), with very few I want but don't have. GamePass would MAYBE be worth it if I was just getting into gaming now, but that's not the case. People still like owning games, they still like physical copies, and they still like collecting. 

If not for my own desire to collect physical games, I'd actually consider PS5's discless version. I never thought I'd say that, but since I have so many digital copies and PS+ games...I'm probably ONLY going to use PS5 discs in the system and migrate my PS4 digital games over. 

I personally think the Discless PS5 is a better value than the Series S, and I don't even know the price of the PS5 yet! Why? IT still has all the speed and power that makes PS5 games stand out despite not having the raw power of the XSX. 

Well I dont have a backlog like you, like I said to him, theres no way I could play that unless I quit my job. But yea the games I do have I do want to migrate them over to the ps5 so Im still invested into the ecosystem. 

I get what your saying it and it sounds correct. I cant see myself switching over, nor do I see anyone who mainly gamed on one 8th gen console due to their investment on either console. And gamepass also seems more atractive to people who havent gamed at all in at least the last 2 years. What I do see possible is people being atracted to the other console and wanting both. But if that is the case, then that hurts xbox the most as current xbox owners where not given a reason to upgrade yet as their console is still playing all games for at least 2021. So get a ps5 and keep your current xbox. While theres still games you need an ps5 to play.

Ill never go digital only untill there is no other option. Not because I collect or nostalgia or any of that, I just dont trust these big companies. they could cancel a server, they could limit your acces, drm and so much bullshit I just wont do it. I wont even play always online games, even tho my internet is very good.

I know about sales, he is always respectfull and as far as I can tell hes not baiting or being purpously dishonest. I know he bats hard for MS but he is resonable while being a fan, but who amongs us is perfect. I know I myself im stuck in my ways and probably wont see the world how he see's it. The are other xbox fans who I do avoid that are very toxic and cant even start a reply wiithout an insult. Ive lerned my leson from thouse others.