Pemalite said:
Bandorr said:
If you want to play games on a PC - you play them on your PC.
If you want to play exclusives on the PS5 - you will need a PS5.
The 3080 doesn't get you more games.
Consider the benefit difference between the 2070 and the 3080. Is that difference enough to make up the lack of PS5 exclusives? |
All console games end up on PC regardless of what Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo does or think, it's only a matter of time.
And often they will look and play better as well.
Plus Sony are placing more focus on porting their console exclusives more and more on the PC as time goes by.
ArchangelMadzz said:
A lot of responses to apply to all I'll reply to the main points here:
1. I do still plan on getting a PS5, getting a 3080 will mean that I'm making the upgrade to playing the majority of non competitive games in 4k.
2. I'm going to wait to see normal ras comparisons in reviews first to see exactly how these cards compare, but from what I've seen on DF it's huge.
3. PS5 Will be purchased when the exclusive library is built up a bit which means probably mid 2022. |
Your 2070 Super isn't old, useless and outdated, it's still got years of life left in it.
Why not save face, save your pennies and just wait a few years and do a full PC and PS5 upgrade?
Jumpinbeans said:
Simple - PS5
Buying the 3080 isn't going to get you any new games, sure it may make some of the existing ones run better but thats about it. PS5 is aimed at new games (backwards are a nice but not main driver) and don't forget the exclusives.
Oh and the 2080 you bought came out 2years ago. The PS4 lasted 7 years and the ps5 will probably last the same. If you are going to replace your graphics cards every 2 years then financially its not even close.
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The PC has exclusives, the Playstation 5 doesn't exist in a vacuum where it's the only platform in existence that has exclusives.
You don't need to replace a GPU every 2 years, that's more out of a 'want' than a need in order to keep on the cutting technological edge of graphics quality, something consoles don't get to enjoy.
Cerebralbore101 said:
Well, I don't know if you'd be able to get double the performance of a 3080 in three years or not. @Pemalite How does 2015's 980 Ti launching at $695 compare to 2018's 2080 at around $700? Is the 2080 double the performance of the 980 Ti?
Back to @eva01beserk ...
Games don't become outdated within three years. Ten? Perhaps. But tons of games out there have aged wonderfully.
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Moores law is being stretched out.
In some instances a jump from the vanilla Geforce 980 to the vanilla Geforce 2080 will grant you a 3x increase, especially in more modern games with more modern rendering pipelines and especially at higher resolutions... But usually a doubling in performance on average is probably a more realistic expectation between Maxwell and Turing.
https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/2529?vs=2514
At the moment the entire gaming industry is undergoing a fundamental shift in how we render games, Ray Tracing is the big key buzzword and the PC is leading the entire tech industry, it's really hard to say how GPU's will perform in 3 years time as nVidia, AMD and even Intel start investing more silicon space to Ray Tracing. It's an exciting time.
In saying that we also have the fabrication issue to consider, nVidia is using Samsung 8nm process which is definitely the lesser cousin to TSMC's 7nm process... So nVidia has room to play around on that front.
5nm/3nm are ramping up very quickly which might be quick transitions, usually when that happens we see large performance increases unlike what we saw when we stagnated at 28nm for years.
ArchangelMadzz said:
But 4k 60fps with ray tracing tho
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PC can do 8k, 120fps with ray tracing though.
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I've yet to play any uncharted game on PC, or killzone, or god of war.. I think saying all come to PC is too soon.
I said in the OP there's nothing wrong with my card and it performs great. But.. given the price of these cards I want to start playing games in 4k without compromising on visuals and frame rate (2070s is more akin to PS5/XSX and will make big sacrifices to do 4k 60fps nevermind RT), which atm is only realistic on the 3000 series cards (that's been announced).
I'm sure the 3090 demo was 8k 60fps but you're probably joking anyway aha.
