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LivingMetal said:
Intrinsic said:

How are we not saying the same thing?

I said the reason Playstation exists today is thanks to Nintendo.

All you have done is explained how.

Nintendo started off getting into a partnership with Sony. Sony spent however long working on the said partnership. At the last minute, Nintendo undercut sony and decided to go a different route. Someone at any (ken) wasn't having it and got the company to build a console that would never have existed if Nintendo didn't cut them off, to begin with.

Ok.  I"ll keep this simple:  "Nintendo PlayStation" =/= PlayStation.  There.

I don't see how you can arrive at that conclusion. Here are the known facts.

  1. Kutaragi (unknown to the higher us at sony) designed a SNES sound chip for Nintendo, and it lost cost him his job but fr he intervention of then sony president Ohga or whatever his name was (can't recall).
  2. After that successful chip, Ken went on to convince the board at sony that they should make aCD add on for the SNES. And Nintendo agreed to this. There was not a lot of support from both camps as sony felt gaming was a fad at the time and not worth investing in and Nintendo wasn't keen on CD-Roms.
  3. Then Nintendo went back on this deal and announced that they were intended partnering with Phillips. The messed up thing was, Sony found out about this along with everyone else when Nintendo announced their partnership with Phillips.
  4.  Then Ken convinced the board that they should go on with the project and make their own game console. And that is how we have Playstation today.

I don't know how else to look at that, but I think its safe to say, that chances are, if that Nintendo Playstation actually came to light, and was a commercial failure (as was the case with the Sega CD), then sony would have sen no reason what so ever to listen to Ken and mak their own console. And the Playstation would never have existed. 

If it was a commercial success, then sony and Nintendo would have started off a long partnership, and sony would probably just be a third party game publisher today if at anything.

I can't see what reason or how to look at this any other way. Nothing at all points to the suggestion that sony would ever have made a Playstation if things hadn't gone south with their partnership with Nintendo.