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Wyrdness said:
eva01beserk said:
I guess im not the only one who saw a disparity with the TFlop number advertise and the performance gained advertised. did NVIDIA cards became less efficient with this gen? Does it have anything to do with TSMC abandoning them and the poor quality of samsung?

Does anybody know the size of these chips in comparison to touring? Just some rumors I heard that they are going with a huge chip to get more performance. Judging by the watt needed it seems that it might be the case.

I dont know guys, but the rumors seem sorta accurate and AMD seems to be going to give NVIDIA a run for its money. While I dont think they could possibly match the 3090, AMD did claim 2x of the 5700xt wich will be around of the 3080. If they price it right now that nvidea went first I see a big blow out in the future.

The's more to it than TFlops as for a start AMD TFlops aren't the same as Nvidia's which is why the 2080Ti is so significantly above the 5700xt another thing is features like dlss and such which reduce required power for better output as seen in Death Stranding's PC version you can play and have 4K visuals at 60fps with out actually having to run the game at 4K. AMD so far hasn't got an answer for certain things and are only just entering the Raytracing arena now with their upcoming cards, at the prices Nvidia announced today pricing it right literally means their GPUs will have to be in bargain and budget PC range now AMD all of a sudden have a tricky fight to deal with now.

Bro what you talking about? Its a direct nvedia to nvedia comparison here. one gen to another. meaning the rumors might be correct and nvidea does not have a big performance increase, wich is why they are going with a bigger chip to compensate..... Maybe. I dont know its why I asked if anybody knows the size of theese chips. We have the cuda core increase, wich the 3080 is almost 3x the 2080 while not delivering 2x the performance, and we have the clock speed is slower. Something is fishy here and im just asking questions.

While for amd the only thing we know is the consoles specs. And the only real world application I know off was the series x runing gears 5 at the same settings as a 2080ti. Dont think this means much as that would be an optimized title. But it still something.  Also that the ps5 is capable of clocking at 2.23GHz. Im willing to bet any bigger card from amd will be able to clock at the same freq or higher, specially if allowed to be 350 watts. 

Again, I dont belive AMD will beat the 3090, but nobody cares as that wont be the real battleground, its the 3080 that AMD has to compete with and acording to the performance they described and digital foundry showed, I think AMD has a real shot if they can deliver the 2x 5700xt they promissed. 



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