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sales2099 said:
goopy20 said:

We haven't seen anything from Spider Man. All we know is that its a ps5 exclusive, made by a developer with a pretty good track record, and we just have to wait and see how it'll turn out. With Halo we've seen 10 minutes of straight up gameplay, we know its coming to Xbox One and 343 actually felt the need to apologize for what they've shown us...

I honestly don't know how you still grasp onto the whole 'cross gen not holding back next gen' thing - especially after Halo becoming a meme. Now we have both DF and Ryan McCaffrey saying it WILL hold back next gen, after talking to enough people in the industry who should now these things. But ok, lets still take Phil's word for it and believe in games that'll scale up and down a family of devices...

Look, I'm not trying to ruin anyone's next gen excitement here. MS has done a pretty stellar job of that themselves, but at least they've been pretty open with what they're doing. I've learned to accept it and it isn't all bad. Series X is still an amazing piece of kit, I do enjoy GP and its nice that I don't need to upgrade my pc to play MS's exclusives. The only things that will be disappointing is if you're expecting MS to tap into that next gen excitement that typically comes with launching a new console. If I'm lying then just tell me honestly, do you expect to see mind blowing Series X gameplay at Gamescom? 

We’ve seen their engine demos. Hellblade 2, Forza Motorsport, Project Mara. They are too far away to show gameplay at Gamescom. We know the games are coming, and certainly have more in the pipeline then the competition (1st party). So really, if you gonna talk trash, you should at least have examples of the other guy delivering where Xbox cant. Otherwise you really have no point. 

“We haven't seen anything from Spider Man.”

You don’t say....(proceeds to hold Xbox to a double standard). 

We've literally seen nothing from Series X. They dropped the ball in May, then everybody thought they were just messing with us and we'd get a night of mic drops in July. Except they did the exact same thing, only this time it weren't some obscure 3rd party titles that failed to impress, but MS's nr1 flagship title. 

We know MS isn't going to show anything at Gamescom because all the cgi teaser they've shown obviously aren't going to release anytime soon. Not because MS miss planned their entire console launch and they got nothing in the pipeline. Its because of the cross gen strategy they've put in place a long time ago and that they're now starting to second guess.

Just think about it man. All those months Phil's been talking about no Series X exclusives for the coming 2 years, and for what? The only game that seems to be cross gen now is Halo. So why did they talk about it so much? Obviously its because they are back peddling on their original strategy. Maybe its because of developer feedback or maybe because of the backlash from the gaming community now that they've shown us the games. Whatever the case, something obviously went horribly wrong and it will have a major impact on the release dates of MS's 1st party studio games.  

I agree that Sony also hasn't done a stellar job getting us hyped for next gen, and I also would have expected them to show some more gameplay by now. The big difference, however, is that Sony is being predictable in the best way possible. They do believe in console generations and they know they'll have to wow us if they plan to sell 120m ps5's in 5 years time. MS on the other hand is being super confusing and unpredictable in the worst way possible. So much so that we don't really know what to expect from Series X. I mean are they dropping current gen? Is the 4Tflops Series S still a thing? Are all their 1st party ip's going GAAS to keep people engaged with GP? Are they targeting Series X like or mid-range specs on PC? I honestly have no clue what they're doing and what to expect from Series X lol.

Last edited by goopy20 - on 26 August 2020