Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread

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EricHiggin said:

Since the lock down lifted, the amount of customers at my parents farm and the local farms has been much higher than anticipated. Not one person has shown up wearing a mask though, and not one has said yes to us wearing a mask while assisting them. Most clearly don't care about social distancing, and these aren't just locals either. Plenty of people from the big cities who are down enjoying the countryside, tasting at the local wineries, and staying at the local camp grounds. To top it off, for a little over a week now, it's supposed to be mandatory in our county to wear a mask at all times when in the presence of non family members, and yet nothing has changed. So much for new rules I guess.
The closest I came to someone who was a little concerned, was an elderly woman and her daughter, who hummed and haw'd, and when I went to reach for my mask, they both adamantly told me not to bother and that they would just keep their distance. An, "are you sure" didn't change their minds. I actually had a really old fella about two weekends ago, who asked me, "what do I look like to ya?", and followed that with, "what are ya, a wuss?". I got a good laugh out of it. While he didn't necessarily look it, he was a tough old boy and wasn't having anything to do with masks or distancing, considering he walked up to me and tapped my shoulder and said, "don't you worry about me, I've beaten worse."

Just the other day, a couple who were interested in purchasing the farm came to have a look, and the woman, who's a nurse, politely argued so she wouldn't have to wear a mask. She stated she get's tested regularly and has always been negative, and was adamant that she social distance's etc, but because one of my parents has a slightly weakened immune system at the moment, she eventually obliged, though apparently she didn't exactly do so happily. My parents found it odd and strange, as other than their initial encounter, the couple were really nice people and easy to get along with. Though my parents tend to be fairly cautious in general, one of them in particular, going way overboard is the norm unfortunately, and covid 19 has just turned that up to 11.
I was kinda surprised to hear this, since she was a nurse, but not all that surprised based on how the public has handled wearing masks when showing up at the farm. Plus, an ex gf of mine who's a paramedic, and a health conscious individual in general, clearly doesn't take covid 19 near as seriously as I'd be led to believe, based on what some my friends have told me when they've spent time with her.

All the other local farmers have basically told us likewise. Very very few people wear a mask unless they have to or grant your offer to wear one for their safety. It's one thing if the general public isn't following the rules for their own good, but when the professionals themselves aren't, what are you supposed to really believe?

I guess people see visiting farms as an outside recreational activity.

Here in Paris, Ontario for those not familiar with the area :) people wear masks downtown to go shopping (it is mandatory, not allowed inside without a mask). However I've not see a single person using a mask for all the river activities. Boats loaded with people, 12 together, packed into vans to be transported back or tot the staging area. Social distancing, of course not in a raft or van. It's been very busy on the river lately. It usually starts at 10:30 AM then until 4 PM groups of people come by by the dozens of rafts, canoes, kayaks, pedal boards or their own whatever floats solutions.

Glen Morris the same, people do stay a little bit apart and there is a sign, maximum 2 groups of 5 allowed at the staging area if staying apart. You're supposed to wait at the parking lot for space, not that people adhere to that. And yup, the farm stands I cycle by, no masks anywhere.

It's a game of chance. No infected people around no problem. One infected person, distance helps, masks help, beware what you touch and wash your hands helps. More infected persons for longer indoors is not a good idea and masks will become less effective (more micro droplets building up in the air)

Outdoors the chances of getting infected are far less, so for outdoor farm stands it's not all that necessary to use a mask when keeping apart and have some airflow to dissipate any droplets. Masks still help outdoors for those that are infected, the less that comes out the better! I can see why that nurse thinks a mask is no use when she's sure she can't be infected. Of course that's just wishful thinking since anyone can spread the disease 3 days before showing symptoms and before getting test results back (which aren't 100% reliable either)

As a common courtesy to others, stay more than 2 meters apart at all times, wear a mask if you have to get closer or are indoors and places with lower air circulation.


I see now why people at the checkout wear gloves at the supermarket. There are still older people that use cash and dig through tons of coins to make change... Dunno if they clean those gloves before handling the groceries of the next person... Wash hands when getting back in the car before and after taking the mask off, then again after putting the groceries away. (Then close the cupboards lol)

Cases today in Brant County
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Such a confidence boost, down yesterday, then a big warning high call volume, now site overloaded... I wonder what the fall out is going to be from the long weekend and phase 3 re-openings.

Ford is making an announcement today at 1pm so they already announced the numbers for today (88) while the pending cases jumped from 17K pending 2 days, 19K yesterday to 25K pending right now. No, we don't manipulate our numbers LOL.


... https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/americans-are-dying-after-drinking-hand-sanitizer-cdc-says-1.5053409