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sales2099 said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

A 10 hour campaign is meaty? Ok. 

You know what I have to do to change the color of my armor in GoT? Spend 15 of the flowers that are littered all over the game. 

GaaS isn't superior long term content. It's watered down content. They take 50 hours of gameplay and stretch it out into 300 hours, with artificial game lengtheners. Meanwhile a good single player game will offer up 20-100 hours of gameplay that respects your time. GaaS is like a single bottle of Soda watered down into twelve bottles. 

Advertising games as being bad, doesn't excuse them from being bad. 

What is a non-instructive MTX? 

You are right to speculate that Sony would have all MTX in their games if all their games were multiplayer based. It's pretty clear, that Sony would do that if their focus was on multiplayer. Thankfully it's not. 

Multiplayer takes considerably less effort and assets than single player. This particular point isn't one that you can't argue with me on (or anybody that has bothered to try their hand at making games). 




Sorry I mean non intrusive, as in Forza never made me feel like I had to spend money. Otherwise there isn’t much to say because each brand caters to different experiences. I just don’t think it’s fair to compare having purely single player experiences to one that does both SP and MP. Of course because one just focuses on SP the efforts show all the more, just so you clear where I stand on it. The quality isn’t lost on me. 

Any game can do a multiplayer component but great ones last years. Take SoT, which is having its best year in 2020. It was mocked in 2018 compared to gems like GOW and Spiderman. Yet in 2020 those games only serve a purpose to be bragged about on the internet where as SoT has outlasted them all due to an addicting multiplayer loop coupled with substantial content updates. 

Just saying you may not prefer multiplayer components but you can’t deny their appeal either. Totally different approaches to games that aren’t completely comparable to each other. So calling out micros in Xbox games is one thing, but you also should acknowledge that at least they have a multiplayer. 

Well keep in mind that being purely single player doesn't make it impossible to do MTX. Just look at modern Assassin's Creed or Shadow of War for examples of MTX in single player games.

I don't have much interest in racing games. I haven't played Forza since 2009 and likely never will again. So I'll take your word on it.

Anybody can boot up GoW or Spiderman and play them right now. I didn't play FF6 until 2006, 13 years after its initial release. God, you might was well favorably compare the Simpsons to Seinfeld, and be like "Seinfeld gathers dust, but the Simpsons still has new episodes! Take that T.V. shows that end!"

But I will have to give SoT a good old 10-20 hour try sometime.

*sarcasm*Dang it! Why isn't their multiplayer in Spiderman or GoW? We should have PVP levels where you use all the mechanics of a single player game to do some shoehorned multiplayer task! METROID PRIME 2 WAS AHEAD OF THE CURVE PEOPLE!!!*/sarcasm*