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Pemalite said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Do you honestly believe better looking games would have made the Xbox One X a huge success? I doubt it. However, it probably did pretty well. A base Xbox One plays all the same games well enough. This is why I hope a much cheaper Series S is on the market as well, it should help the userbase.

Games can sell consoles. Games can make or break a console.

The Original Xbox was slow getting out of the gate... Until we got Halo, which then put that particular console on the map.

The Xbox 360 was doing pretty bad due to the RROD image disaster, Halo 3 turned that sentiment around fairly quickly.

Breath of the Wild made the Switch a "must have device" in it's early years.

Sony has taken a strong narrative by showcasing the next-gen leap that the Playstation 5 is offering, it's given gamers a reason to buy one early, what reason is there to buy an Xbox Series X? It's not providing a tangible leap over the Xbox One, all it's games are available elsewhere... And you get arguably better visuals on technically inferior platforms like the Playstation 5.

The Xbox One X was never going to be a "roaring" success due to being painted with the Xbox One brand brush, but I don't think it even managed to be a marginal success like even the Playstation 4 Pro... Part of that is likely due to the lack of exclusives on Microsofts behalf to even push the Xbox One into the mind of gamers and truly showcase what it can do.

Now I am not personally fussy about a game being actually exclusive or not, I don't even care if it spans multiple console generations... It doesn't affect me personally even in the slightest. - Other people care about that stuff though.

But I am fussy if it's not going to showcase the hardware appropriately to it's fullest extent... And I think that should apply to everyone, we should expect the absolute best possible product for any given platform we use.

I feel Xbox is made by many notable games, not just a Halo game. Halo certainly brought attention to Xbox in the early 2000s, but I wouldn't argue they single they made Xbox successful alone.

OG Xbox was a new competitor, so a big title was great to have. It at least helped make Xbox relevant along with a bunch of other games that were console exclusive.

Xbox thrived in spite of RROD because many notable games, 3rd parties were supporting Xbox more and the PS3 was expensive.

Switch didn't need BotW to succeed, certainly helped though.

You trying to sell me a PS5? Because you have my attention. I guess in a nutshell, I'm more concerned about Halo Infinite being good than the graphics. That is what will ultimately impact that game.

I don't see much of a point in debating whether or not Xbox One X was a success. Pro and One X were the same concept, but One X just did it better.

Some people might get "fussy" about true exclusivity, but I think in the grand scheme you have more customers putting games on PC and doing cross gen for a period. I personally believe MS putting all on on PC was a great idea given many PC gamers aren't necessarily interested in consoles, especially outside of the US and western Europe. Maybe Oceania as well.

My stance is if you aren't happy with the graphics MS has showcased, then maybe you shouldn't buy a Series X. You have a Xbox One X and a PC I assume, so you'll have access to Halo Infinite regardless.



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