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goopy20 on 31 July 2020
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Azzanation said:
DonFerrari said:

Use that metric if you want. Sony sell more than double the hardware, more than double the PS+ versus XBL Gold, more than double the 3rd party game royalties and like 5x more first party games sold. So yes Sony completely obliterated MS on revenue and profit this gen.

No one is arguing it this gen, Sony did make more revenue this gen. My point is about the direction.

Who is more successful, Company A or Company B?

RolStoppable said:

Your example demonstrates that you don't know what winning is. The PS4 brings in a lot more revenue than Switch, but Switch is more profitable nonetheless.

Winning is first and foremost about selling the most units of hardware. There hasn't been a generation where the best-selling console wasn't also clearly the most profitable console at the same time. It's only among the runner-ups that oddities could be observed, namely the Xbox (24m) being less profitable than the GC (21m), and the PS3 being less profitable than the Xbox 360 despite slightly higher unit sales.

The best-selling console will continue to bring in the most gaming profits for its manufacturer.

Again, PS4 did make more revenue this gen, no one is debating that, that's not the point i am making. 

Who is more successful in my example, Company A or Company B?

derpysquirtle64 said:

That's a great example, but can you really see and explain how MS can possibly make more revenue/profit than Sony or Nintendo with their current strategy if their marketshare in console business will stay pretty much the same (which is around less than 20%).

Glad you can see what i am trying to say in my example, and not turning this into a PS4 vs XB1 post. The major profits is with the software and subs, the more software and subs sold the more profit is made.

Look what Pokemon GO did for Nintendo, it made $7.5b in revenue for Nintendo just for 1 game and it wasn't on a Nintendo platform. 360 lost $3b in hardware and PS3 lost $5b in hardware by 2013. Excluding the profits Live made for the 360 and the profits from the games sold on both consoles, the Hardware lost billions. 1 game from Nintendo did the complete opposite number 

Currently the top 6 best selling Steam games, 4 of them are from Xbox. Add PC GamePass subscribers to the mix and you can start seeing the growth. Xbox is covering more markets and soon Streaming will be in the mix as well.  

Links to the 360 and PS3 losing billions and Pokemon GOs revenue boosting figures below.

https://www.vg247.com/2013/01/07/xbox-360-and-ps3-losses-total-8-billion-ex-sony-employee-paints-grim-future/#:~:text=Animal%20Crossing-,Xbox%20360%20and%20PS3%20losses%20total%20%248%20billion%2C%20ex,Sony%20employee%20paints%20grim%20future&text=Xbox%20360%20and%20PS3%20have,by%20industry%20veteran%20Ben%20Cousins.&text=%E2%80%9CConsoles%20like%20Xboxes%2C%20PlayStations%20%26,a%20loss%E2%80%9D%2C%20said%20Cousins.

https://www.theverge.com/2016/7/11/12147600/nintendos-stock-pokemon-go

Come on guys. We're all gamers here, not share holders. Who cares which company is making the most money. I only care about seeing full blown next gen games specifically designed for that 12Tflops beast of a console, and GP is getting in the way of that.