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Pemalite said:
Mr Puggsly said:

A lot of games are going to be cross gen, but we expect few if any to look significantly better on next gen at launch. Again, based on the 2019 trailer I fully expected a game that looked like Xbox One was the focus. However, if 343 managed to make a really great looking Xbox One game then there would also be less complaining.

"Other Games" are not Halo.
"Other Games" are not AAA platform exclusives.
"Other Games" are not supposed to be showcasing a platform in the absolute best possible light to showcase hardware potential.

Thus I can and will hold my expectations for Halo higher than other titles, they initiated the hype, they deserve the criticism when they fall short.

Mr Puggsly said:

MS clearly wants this game out for the Series X launch and that clearly limiting the visual potential. Especially if ray tracing will be an update. Maybe other visual upgrades are planned? I also imagine the campaign is the primary focus, while the MP experience will be kinda bare bones at launch.

If anything, post-launch content is meh, if the features aren't there on launch then it needs to be critiqued and judged accordingly, either way... If the Xbox Series X isn't going to push the graphics side of the equation, then there is less of a reason to buy one, better off with a Playstation 5 instead if you want the next-gen experience.

Remember Halo 5 released without forge, split screen, co-op, theater and only a few maps, by the time some of that was added into the game... A chunk of the community had already forgotten about the game and moved on, the games review scores were also lower as a result... And deservedly so.

Mr Puggsly said:

To be frank, I don't MS will not be demonstrating the Series X's potential at launch. At best there will be a significant disparity between base console vs Series X. For example, Forza Horizon 4 with higher visual settings, 4K, and 60 fps could be stunning. Perhaps more games will do that between 1st and 3rd party.

It will be interesting to see if the platforms success takes a hit... Either way, if they aren't interested in demonstrating the console appropriately, maybe not launch the console at all until they feel the inkling to do so?

A single game can make or break a console.

Mr Puggsly said:

I meant wowing people in the sense Halo did in 2001, not just visually. Gears 5 was a impressive game visually that came from MS. I'm looking forward to seeing it Series X as well. Given Xbox One graphics settings were basically low PC settings, with higher resolutions and performance on the One X.

I was pointing out the 2019 trailer is still ain't the 2018 trailer.

Gears 5 is old news already, don't really care for it being "Series X enhanced". - It's a cool feature, but not the reason I would like to buy a next-gen console if I can already play it on my Xbox One X.

Yes. I get the 2019 trailer is not the 2018 trailer, that much is obvious from just the dating alone.

One trailer was a technology demonstration just like the Unreal 5 engine demo on the Playstation 5, the other was a game trailer.
Both have very similar technical underpinnings being based on the same engine, I have already elaborated on some of the impressive technical demonstrations like the dynamic lighting of the volumetrics and so forth.

Many other games are cross gen, so is Halo Infinite.  Halo Infinite isn't a Series X exclusive. Halo isn't going to really showcase what Series X is really capable of. I think criticism is fine, but its kinda like people are pretending they have great expectations when the writing was already on the wall. Either way, hope it's good.

PS5 might feel next gen sooner. That wouldn't surprise me unless multiplats really impress early.

Halo Infinite will certainly be affected negatively for being slim in content at launch. But we now see users may come post updates in this era.

Xbox is not dependent on a single game or IP. They don't even care to give it true exclusives and every MS game is on PC. I don't know if this is a great strategy but I like it.

A Series S console could also help them thrive. Same 9th gen games on cheaper hardware could do well.

Next gen consoles aren't launching with a ton of notable content. So I guarantee last gen enhanced games will be getting attention as well. Cyberpunk is launching on 8th gen only I believe, but I imagine its still best on 9th gen.

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