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Agente42 on 27 July 2020
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Slownenberg said:
IcaroRibeiro said:

The problem is I got bored after redoing the same maps over and over to get moons. My 30 hours include 15 hours discovering moons, and I'm sure I could spend at least more 20 only looking for more moons, but the sense of discovering and exploring is not the same when you are in the same kingdoms for long a time. Being a platform is no excuse, it's a sequel of triple A game 60 dollar priced in the biggest nintendo franchise. It must be at least 30 hours worth in the main story and closer to 100 to get 100%

And yes, I demand BOTW 2 to take me at least 200 hours. I spent around 150 in the first one, I see no reason why the second (that inherits assets, engine and gameplay development and is mostly focused in new content) cannot provide me at least 25% more time of playthrough 

It's not about excuses, it's just the simple fact that Mario Odyssey is a very long game for the genre. As you said, there's roughly 60 hours of gaming if you try to fully complete the game or get close to fully completing it. That's huge for the genre!

You do realize there are plenty of AAA games that are like 10 hours right? Sometimes even shorter. Now THAT is criminally short. 30-60 hours of gameplay depending on how badly you wanna complete everything is in no way anything close to being described as short. You know the type of one player games that are longer than Mario Odyssey? RPGs and adventure games, that's it, and only the longer ones!

I'm not sure where you got the idea that a platformer should be 100 hours long, because that game doesn't exist. 30 hours is already VERY long for a platformer, the fact that Odyssey offers along the lines of 60 hours if you're trying to get close to 100%'ing it is fantastic. I'm glad they made such a long game, they could have easily provided less content and made it a more standard length of say like 15 hours to beat it and 30 hours to 100% it.

Your comment makes me think you've never played any type of game that isn't an RPG or some sprawling open world game. Certainly you must not have ever played a platforming game before.

true 2d Mario is different than 3d mario.

2d Mario have too many arcade roots ( easy to learn but hard to master, tons of secrets, shortcuts, etc) . And 3d Mario is more adventure to collect a ton game ( open world-Esque, complex moves, plural verbs). 

But one 3d Mario with more secrets and more direct design resembles 2d Mario be very fresh approach. game with 2 hours to beat and 100/200 hours to really complete the game.