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Runa216 said:
sales2099 said:

https://twitter.com/klobrille/status/1287434940364267520?s=21

Look at that, I’m curious what you think. The top 3 rows (15 games) are all from Xbox Studios. That’s not even all the games they have cooking and only what’s official. Tell me when Xbox ever had 15 games in development...I’ll wait. You don’t have to be a business insider to see next gen won’t repeat the same mistakes of Xbox One, nor the late gen game droughts of 360. 

Then you have the timed exclusives, and let’s be honest if PS fans can brag about FF7 timed then we can do the same. 

Then you have the fact that all 24 games on that picture....again TWENTY FOUR, are all DAY 1 GamePass. I can’t stress enough how insane that value is. For GP Ultimate you merely need to play 3 full priced games a year to break even. Please let that sink in how pro consumer this is. How this is a major selling point compared to PS. How even if you prefer PS to Xbox you will be paying more and playing less then me using GP. Please stop and consider that. 

Cant stress enough how Xbox has never been in this position regarding games and value to gamers. Never. 

IF people actually cared about GamePass for Xbox, the Xbox One would be selling FAR better than it is. I'm not saying it's not a good deal - it totally is - but being on GamePass isn't really a selling point if we're being honest. Especially not when you can get it on PC. 

I still would only play a handful of their games, but it'd be a win for everyone. as it stands, even you don't seem to think there's any value in the actual Xbox, it's all about Gamepass to you. 



Your description of the games doesn’t change what I said. The narrative is temporary. Gameplay is inevitable. Marketing and Game Pass will almost always guarantee a audience for them. Xbox having 15 officially confirmed 1st party games is unprecedented. Even if you don’t know much about many of them this is uncharted waters. No more over relying on the “trinity”. No more game droughts. You have to at least acknowledge that. 

Your FF7 comment is tone deaf. I see fans brag about that all the time. Here, Twitter, it’s a feather on the cap. A 3rd party timed exclusive. So why can’t we talk about games like Stalker 2 and Medium? Same goes for Horizon going to Pc. I don’t know where you hanging out online but PS fans largely hate that. PS is all about exclusives being locked to one platform. True exclusives, that’s literally your culture that is thrown in Xbox’s face daily. Of course it makes sense to expand their portfolio, but don’t pretend it’s not divisive among fans. 

You seem like a traditional gamer, and that’s fine. But at least put yourself in the shoes of gamers that play a ton of games every year regarding GP. It truly is a system seller in its own right for what it does. 

“even you don't seem to think there's any value in the actual Xbox, it's all about Gamepass to you.”. Well considering GP is exclusive to the Xbox brand, and I don’t have a gaming PC, it seems Xbox consoles are the way to go for me. The only place I can play Halo or Hellblade or Avowed is Xbox consoles. Because this may shock you....dozens of millions of gamers don’t care about gaming on PC. They want the cost effective convenience of a gaming console. And GP allows me to play a ton of games both 1st and 3rd, because saving money actually matters to most people. Knowing I will most certainly pay more $$$ if I went the PS route, logically Xbox is my console of choice. 

You have a problem empathizing how people could like what you don’t. Please try.

Last edited by sales2099 - on 27 July 2020

Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles.