ArchangelMadzz said:
Trumpstyle said:
RDNA2 > Ampere from the looks of it.
We can just see this from the consoles, PS5 can sustain 2,2ghz on the gpu and rdna1 with 40CU at 1.8ghz pull about 200w+. Xbox series x has 52CU at 1.8ghz. Jason Schreier also said the PS5 gpu beats the geforce 2080.
From this we can see RDNA2 has big clock improvements and ipc gains, probably some memory bandwidth effiency gains too. Ampere only offer upwards 40% performance gains with power consumption increase.
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I mean I'll believe it when I see it. I'll be happy, I'm planning on buying a PS5 to have alongside my PC. But I'm really not expecting a Ryzen 3rd gen of GPU's to be releasing.
Captain_Yuri said:
AMD has been fairly competitive in their budget categories against Nvidia. It's their top tier cards that have always been the issues which is a shame T_T.
And then you would need to look at something like the CPU since just because it's an AMD 8 core 16 threads with similar frequencies doesn't mean it will perform the same as we know that things like the L3 cache has been reduced on the console versions and you have 1 core reserved for OS and etc. Then you will have these brand new SSDs coming out with reads that can do 6.5GB/s but is that even gonna matter cause of the Series X's SSD and real world performance and then you can get windows for like $20-$30 from kinguin and blah blah blah. This can be a back and forth speculation that won't matter until they all release which as a working man, I don't have time for and I am sure you have better things to do as well.
Now personally, I am not a fan of the whole idea of "Console Killer" PCs. PCs are a general purpose device vs consoles are a very much specialized device. Because of the Covid for example, I am working from home and in order for me to do that, we need to use Sonicwall's NetExtender VPN. You can't do that on a console for example. But on the other hand, you won't get the level of optimization that comes from owing a console. So for me, PC's should always have the general purpose tax for me to ever recommend one instead of one where so many corners have been cut that if you look at it the wrong way, it will slap you cross the face, fuck your wife and leave with your dog.
But at the end of the day, I think the PC parts that are on the horizon will be able to bring PCs a lot closer to the performance of the ps5 and Series X so I wouldn't count out those budget builds just yet.
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The Ryzen 7 3700x will perform better in games than the Console versions as the frequency is much higher. It's just it's the only CPU with 8 zen cores with SMT, it wouldn't have been fair to pick a Ryzen 5.
I mean it was just a fun little 10 minute exercise to do, the only thing that will change between now and release is the new GPU pricing. We're not getting new CPU's, and we're going to get faster SSD's that will be more expensive etc.
It was just interesting to see that similar performance on paper for a PC was at least a 2x increase in price with a shitty motherboard, CPU Cooler and PSU that no one should buy. Even if the GPU was free the PS5 build would be mega expensive compared to the real console.
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Actually we are getting the new Ryzen 4000 series CPUs which should release late 2020 around the times that the consoles release. The rumours say that those will have 8 cores per ccx so there shouldn't be much if any ccx to ccx latency up to 8 cores that zen 2 has which should give a pretty good performance boost. And unlike Intel, AMD actually discounts their previous gen CPUs when and even before their new gen arrives.
But yea, PC's will always have the general purpose tax and that is something I wouldn't trade for anything cause it allows me to play hentai games and nude mods and download prawn.
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