Will 'Console Killer' PC's be dead for next gen?

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ArchangelMadzz said:

Captain_Yuri said:

In order for us to argue pricing, we need to look at performance... Cause without knowing what specs are needed to beat the next gen consoles, how are we supposed to argue pricing? If you need a 3060 to beat the Series X as an example, then there's no reason to look a 2070/3070 pricing. The 2070's MSRP is $499. If you got the Founders edition versions which are always higher priced then yea, you would pay $599 but that's your choice to pay more...

If AMD is the value brand and assuming their RDNA2 cards will be up to snuff, then it should be even lower than Nvidia's pricing. So if the 3060 will beat a Series X, then AMD's version could be priced even lower.

The main kicker for next gen GPU pricing is going to be RDNA2. When Nvidia launched their 2000 series, they had no competition hence the price increases. But for 3000 series, there will be with RDNA2. And that's why you could get more performance for a lower price since when AMD launched their RDNA1, Nvidia adjusted their pricing according (and then AMD adjusted theirs to counter).

It's hard to believe the hype for RDNA2 to be honest.

I think Nvidia's new cards are going to be ridiculous and I really don't like that I bought a 2070s last Sep cause I might just have to upgrade if it really is THAT good. 

But I've been let down way too many times by AMD's graphics division to take any rumours or PR seriously until I actually see the benchmarks.

Also if you really want to be modest and say the XSX level GPU will be £200. The XSX/PS5 PC build would still be in the £900/£1000 mark. 

AMD has been fairly competitive in their budget categories against Nvidia. It's their top tier cards that have always been the issues which is a shame T_T.

And then you would need to look at something like the CPU since just because it's an AMD 8 core 16 threads with similar frequencies doesn't mean it will perform the same as we know that things like the L3 cache has been reduced on the console versions and you have 1 core reserved for OS and etc. Then you will have these brand new SSDs coming out with reads that can do 6.5GB/s but is that even gonna matter cause of the Series X's SSD and real world performance and then you can get windows for like $20-$30 from kinguin and blah blah blah. This can be a back and forth speculation that won't matter until they all release which as a working man, I don't have time for and I am sure you have better things to do as well.

Now personally, I am not a fan of the whole idea of "Console Killer" PCs. PCs are a general purpose device vs consoles are a very much specialized device. Because of the Covid for example, I am working from home and in order for me to do that, we need to use Sonicwall's NetExtender VPN. You can't do that on a console for example. But on the other hand, you won't get the level of optimization that comes from owing a console. So for me, PC's should always have the general purpose tax for me to ever recommend one instead of one where so many corners have been cut that if you look at it the wrong way, it will slap you cross the face, fuck your wife and leave with your dog.

But at the end of the day, I think the PC parts that are on the horizon will be able to bring PCs a lot closer to the performance of the ps5 and Series X so I wouldn't count out those budget builds just yet.