Wman1996 said:
Slownenberg said:
You must be very young if you think Nintendo never kept up in hardware department.
NES, SNES, and N64 were all the most powerful popular systems of their gen (I say popular cuz I wouldn't count failures like Neo Geo). Gamecube was second most powerful system of its gen.
In fact it's only when Sony started trying to compete on power with the PS3, that Nintendo decided to not do the exact same thing as the other two companies in the industry (not saying the two are related as obviously Nintendo starting work on the Wii well before Sony announced the power of the PS3, but just saying the two companies switched at the same time - Sony going from making the least powerful systems to competing for the most powerful systems, and Nintendo going from competing for the most powerful systems to making the least powerful systems but doing that for a reason - making unique systems).
Only starting with the Wii did they decide to go with the creative route over the make really expensive high graphics route, and that is because if they stuck to what they always did they woulda just been in a lame 3-way competition all trying to do the same thing and the video game industry would just have 3 incredibly similar systems, also the probably realized continuing to do this would result in the $400-$600 systems we've seen from Micro/Sony and Nintendo I think prefers making affordable systems that are more consumer friendly. They certainly could have kept competing on power alone, and done well, but instead they built a separate market for Nintendo that makes them unique and very successful as long as they don't screw up on the creative factor like they did with the Wii U. Since changing their strategy in order to stand out from the console twins, two out of three systems have been their most successful consoles, with the Switch looking extremely likely to be their second most successful system ever behind DS.
And in what way are generations meaningless in Nintendo World?! It's the exact opposite! Sony and Microsoft you get more power but essentially the same, just upgraded, experience each new gen. Nintendo the past few gens you've got motion controls, a tablet second screen, and then a hybrid system. If anything the past 3 generations of Nintendo systems have been much more meaningful than those made by Sony and Microsoft.
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Actually the Master System was more capable than the NES. It may not have been a success, but it was not as big of a failure as the Atari 7800 and the very obscure 3rd Gen consoles. But power tends to not be the deciding factor for console sales.
The SNES is the only time I can think of where the most powerful console of a gen (again when looking at the heavier hitters in sales at the time) won the gen.
Atari 2600 wasn't the most powerful, NES wasn't the most powerful, SNES was the most powerful (minus obscure outliers like the Neo Geo), PS1 wasn't the most powerful, PS2 wasn't the most powerful, Wii wasn't the most powerful.
Eighth gen is more complicated. Base PS4 is more powerful than the Xbox One. But the Xbox One X is more powerful than the PS4 Pro.
All this to say the fourth gen and kind of eighth gen are the only times the powerful console won.
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Totally agree that power doesn't win gens, was just correcting the kid who I guess has only been around for the past two generations.
Also I wouldn't count Master System as a popular system. NES was the most powerful that gen because it was a monopoly in its generation. Most people had never even heard of Sega until the Genesis...
Alright I just looked up Master System sales and I am very surprised to see it sold 13 million, but then I looked up North America sales and it was only 2 million. In the US nobody knew what the Master System. I had never even heard of it until probably a couple years after the Genesis came out, and I don't think I have never seen one in real life. Looks like only 114 Master Systems games came out in the US. I guess it was more popular in Brazil and Europe. As an American though, where the NES brought the industry back from its death bed and had a monopoly on the industry, Master System was a complete failure, and so I don't count it as a popular system.
