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John2290 said:
vivster said:

If they spread dangerous falsehoods and hate speech they should be silenced. And they actually are in democratic countries.

Hate speech is speech, lies are speech. You can't go drawing lines short of threats to physical health. I have found some of your posts hateful and very often falling into falsehoods like your take on Covid being just the flu before it reached pandemic levels and hateful against straight, white males but id never ask you to be silenced for it. Say what you like, make an Irish slur or whatever and as long as you don't threaten to physically attack me, you should be allowed to say it. It's that simple. I believe you even said once it's a good thing to cull the old and weak if i remember correctly... should you be silenced? If you go on about silencing others at least hold yourself to the same standard.

If I'm killing or physically hurting people with my speech I should be silenced and if I don't stop killing people with my speech I should be removed from society altogether. Trump is not only hurting and killing people with his speech but he is also entirely unremorseful. So not only should he be silenced, but removed from society altogether.

See, it's very easy to draw lines. Free speech is a myth and only a moron would argue that speech should not be restricted in some form. Humans cannot be trusted to not hurt others, so of course they cannot be trusted with absolute freedom. It's how societies work and it's why laws exist. Not to mention that speech is how most violence starts.

Side note: I already have been silenced plenty on this very forum for my speech and the mods had every right to do so. Though some bans were more questionable than others.

Last edited by vivster - on 16 July 2020

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