NSW is here to Stay!! It’s Life Will Be Long and No Successor Will Come Before 2025!

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Wyrdness said:

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- It's the most powerful dedicated gaming portable on the market so no matter what argument you use this fact doesn't change the sheer fact that the only argument you can bring are non gaming devices and tech that's not even being used by anything in dedicated gaming highlights this. 

- What are you even on about here you argued about Nintendo having both platforms alongside each other in order to not cut the Switch short that means Nintendo having to support more than one platform and again with the mid gen refresh nonsense Nintendo is not Sony or MS that's another pointless move as you release a new platform then do a refresh in 4 years, the Switch it self is in its 4th year and still bulldozing the charts, under your notion a refresh would be out now that adds nothing of value. I don't get the logic you're trying to push here it's like you want them to just release hardware for the sake of it.

- It's one to get the tech the industry is going to use by rushing out a platform that won't even be using it? You haven't thought this through you've just given a knee jerk reaction and Curl is correct you have to wait because your suggestion undermines what you actually want to the point that the suggestion's outcome contradicts the argument of why you want the said action the Switch has the luxury of being able to wait for mobile tech to catch up no need to sacrifice that luxury along with its success. PS5 and XSX are high end level tech performance wise going by their specs no current tech is going to match it in the mobile scene and your suggestion would mean current tech would have to be used with a further refresh needed later that's inefficient business as Nintendo could just wait and use better tech later that gets ports easier and won't require a refresh while competing.

Read what was posted Switch was announced a year in not R&D started a year in this meant we knew a confirmed platform to replace the WiiU was on the way and it was still given 3 years of further R&D when replacing a failing platform and you think ports which play a minimal part in Nintendo's current success are going to force them to drop the Switch? Skyrim is a game that was on 360, Doom and such are small linear shooters while TW3 is a large open world game the difference is easy to see and the's a reason why after TW3 power stopped being used as an excuse as TW3 was and still is the most demanding game of the gen until Cyberpunk arrives.

It's not just about tech being ready it's also about factors like performance, platform and business situation, how your competition is performing, strategic timing etc... The irony is what you're suggesting is something they did before to get third party support it's called the WiiU.

-My point still stands. Being the most powerful one currently does not neglect that there's already better tech out there. I don't even know what are you suggesting here.

-New Nintendo 3DS is the same as a Pro or Series X. A Switch Pro is rumored. How are those different from the Microsoft and Sony ones? I have said over several post why I believe is a good move in my opinion, and I will say once again: a new console is not going to cut the legs of the past one as long as it keeps getting support. Having retrocompatibility is going to guarantee some small developers that their games are going to appear on both consoles.

-How do you know that the tech used for a 2022-2023 Switch successor is something that it is not going to be used in the future? I also would like to know how my opinion is a knee jerk reaction when you were the ones that quoted my post in the first place. And, if by any means, Nintendo does what I suggest, are we going to feel that the console is rushed because of the time of release, ignoring the specs or tech that could be behind? You already said that PS5 and XSX tech is high end and we should wait, but why until 2024? Why wait not until 2025 or 2026 when mobile tech progress even more? Even the OP is suggesting 2025, not 2024, which will be rushed too.

-Skyrim HD is based on the remaster that came to PS4 and XboxX. Doom and Doom Eternal are considered demanding games. And the power "excuse" is still present to some companies (at least now), even after TW3 release. Not all engines work or have been ported to the Switch. And I still satnd by my point: those games still came out and TW3 release has nothing to do with that. New games are not going to be greenlighted because they are forced to do by shareholders because TW3 proves that Switch could handle games from the current generation.

-And I'm taking that other factors into consideration. They don't need to wait until Switch sales are dry to release a successor. They don't need to wait for an arbitrary year for tech if it is ready for them. And the Wii U is far from a good attempt to get third party support. Wii U launched at holiday 2012, 2 years after the last good Wii year in sales and a majority of the userbase moved on to new hardware, in fact it would prove that a newer console released soon as 2011 would have still part of the userbase ready to move to the new console. Their supposed "attempt" had PS3/360 similar tech behind it when the next gen was going to arrive a year later.

-And again, you are labeling third party games or Switch 2 versions as ports. I mentioned before that imo they are going to try get same day versions, not late ports.

If by the time I suggest the successor the tech is not ready for Nintendo's bussiness, then it is ok to me for being wrong. But if they feel confident on releasing a successor by the time I suggest, that has the tech that would allow to keep getting third party support, then I would not feel like that console was rushed to the market.