Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread

[vivster]

SpokenTruth said:

Chicho said:

Nobody gets their results "hours later" I know people who had to wait a week and people that waited longer than a week,i think the fastest is like 3 days.

There are a few factors that play into the return on results.  There are currently several tests in use.  The time period for results on them alone vary from several days to just 20 minutes. Then you have to consider where the actual test is performed.  You may have your sample collected at one location but it might get sent to a back logged state lab 200 miles away.  It's the delivery and wait time that contribute to the "longer than a week" time for results rather than the test itself.  Some places can collect your sample and give you a result in under an hour.

vivster said:

Dude, you talk as if the US had any kind of accountability. The narrative isn't silly, it's the US that is silly, where blatant and openly admitted fraud and corruption go unpunished.

Hell yes the US is fudging numbers, not necessarily at a national or state level, but they sure do and will continue to try their best to suppress numbers in any way possible.

Then what level is fudging the numbers and how? You say it's not federal or national level which suggests local level. How and why. Explain both.

Everybody that says they are fudging the numbers fails to provide a valid method on how they are doing it or why they are doing it.  In fact, most people say they are inflating their numbers, not suppressing them.

The People claiming inflated numbers are obviously right wing nut jobs sucking on Trump's teets. There is absolutely no benefit in inflating numbers, but there sure are benefits for suppressing them.

Florida is the best example as there we know of definite attempts to suppress numbers to make the state look better. It's also subtle things at the local level where tests on dead people aren't happening at all because nothing outside of hospitals counts. Some counties just don't want to look bad or just don't want to put in the effort. And when you think about the horrible situation with completely unqualified coroners around the country, there are bound to be overlooked deaths, unintentional or otherwise.

So we know there were attempts to suppress them on purpose, we know some cases are suppressed by incompetence and we know some cases are suppressed by an insufficient counting policy.

Just have a look at the CDC's page for excess deaths. There are tens of thousands of unaccounted deaths.

Last edited by vivster - on 09 July 2020