| EricHiggin said: Sure, but unless that faulty part is in every single vehicle, you don't force all people to stop driving their vehicles until the vehicles with issues are back to proper form. You single out the specific vehicle models, and the owners of those models have to deal with the inconvenience, not everyone. Unless that is how things are done there, which I don't believe is the case, correct? |
All vehicles are never taken off the road at the same time... Even when we had that vehicle flaw in dozens of vehicle models a few years ago, the replacements occurred over a period of months.
If all vehicles are subject to the same flaw, then you need to get in touch with various outlets to book a time for that repair/replacement to occur, it's a logistics thing... The issue gets resolved over a period of time, not all at once.
Those who do not need to drive their vehicles, should minimize such use as much as practicable.
The same thing occurs with COVID, everyone needs to stay at home, unless you are an essential worker.
| EricHiggin said: Yes, the Gov does get involved at times, but they don't always have to. It's not as clear cut when you're talking about the entire world and all it's different types of medical systems, Gov run or not, but they don't necessarily have to be involved in everything, and yet things work quite well, though never perfect. |
If you have a competent government, they should get involved.
| EricHiggin said: I'm not saying freedom or bust. I'm saying somewhat limited freedom is almost always better than as little freedom as possible. You don't kick everyone off the road because some drivers/cars are having deadly issues, just like you don't lock everyone inside when there's some people having deadly health issues. You do your best to take care of those who are having the problems, yet warn everyone else of the dangers and let them decide. |
I am free to go to the pub.
I am free to go to the sauna.
I am free to go to the gym.
I am free to go to work.
Why? I gave up some freedom for a few weeks, went into lockdown and only did the "essentials".
And now I have a ton of freedom, almost like the Virus doesn't exist. (Because it doesn't here.)
What you are saying is good in theory... But it hasn't worked. The United States has failed. It's the laughing stock of the world in how not to handle a pandemic.
| EricHiggin said: How many people have heard that a certain vehicle had a recent recall for a major problem, yet got killed in an accident by being struck by that same recalled vehicle shortly after? Should they have been given the choice to drive or be a passenger? That may only be just one person in all of human history, but if every last equal life matters, then things needs to change drastically and quickly. |
It was advertised in News Papers, Social Media, Radio, Television, Bill-boards and more.
It was everywhere.
If there is a major problem, the manufacturers of said vehicles have an obligation to get in touch and inform their customers of their rights and obligations in handling the "warranty issue". - Australia has some of the best warranty processes in the world.
Every life matters, this isn't even up for debate, I am a first responder... Anyone who downplays even a single life lost is not a decent individual in my eyes.
| EricHiggin said: The problem is we can't predict the future worth a damn. The further we look ahead, the more wrong we tend to be. For all we know, what we did to the economy will have worse implications than those directly related to the covid 19 illness itself. Which is why the choice needs to be put in people's hands as much as possible, and not the Gov. If you've screwed yourself or others over which led to negative covid 19 consequences, that's on you for not being a decent citizen. If you choose to remain quarantined, to be extra safe or out of necessity, even if it means a lack of free market income, then that's also your choice as a citizen. |
False. We have a representational democracy. - We elect officials to make the difficult choices on our behalf, using the most up to date, informed and accurate pieces of information backed by science and evidence that fits in with the legislative frameworks that have already been established.
The United States economy has already been impacted... And due to the rapid spread of COVID in the United States will mean that the economic impact will be a prolonged one, longer than ours.
We won, we beat the virus, the USA is still fumbling over it all, we were right in our approach, the USA was blatantly wrong.
When it comes to Pandemics, people need to be cohesive in their resolve, otherwise nothing will work.
Australia and New Zealand collectively and cohesively went into lockdown early, defeated the virus and returned to economic activity... The USA however, didn't. People went out and demanded "freedom", protested and more. - The virus continues to run rampant killing hundreds of thousands of people...
The United States has done nothing to keep anyone safe and healthy. It's response has been a disgusting joke.. And the issue there starts at the very top.
One person with the virus being selfish and ignorant could infect 100 other people in a day by not conforming to social distancing, hygiene and sanitation and staying home... And those people go on to infect more people.
It's selfish people that are the spreaders of disease, it's the American government not placing appropriate education, signage, alerts and policy that has failed to direct and lead the country that are a big problem.
Elect real leadership, start winning.
And we don't need to "predict the future". - When it comes to things like wild fires, pandemics, hurricanes and more... We have "all hazards approach" to planning which is a framework on how we prevent, prepare, respond and recover from any large incident such as COVID.
I probably have a little more understanding on this kind of thing than most considering I have done a diploma in emergency management.
| EricHiggin said: Some countries who didn't do much to stop the spread are also in reasonable shape. Some countries who've done less testing have better looking numbers. Who's undoubtedly doing it right and who's doing it wrong? I don't think there's any answer that can undeniably answer that, long term. |
The countries who have done the right thing are the ones who have defeated the virus. (New Zealand.)
The countries who have done the wrong thing are the ones who are still fumbling and dealing with the virus. (United States.)
Couldn't be anymore black and white than that... Unless you are trying to assert that the United States has been successful?
--::{PC Gaming Master Race}::--
