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forest-spirit on 06 July 2020
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Immersiveunreality said:
forest-spirit said:

It would take a very serious threat for the police to get involved. Or do you seriously believe that someone writing "I will stab you" will get a visit by the police? And if they did, such actions by the police would get huge reactions from every defender of free speech out there. So not only would calling the cops only work for a handful of comments, it most certainly wouldn't do much keeping things silent either.

And what about people that write hateful comments without coming close to breaking any laws? Saying "I hope you and your family gets cancer and dies" isn't illegal but sure as fuck shouldn't be met with silence.

1) Ofcourse not every hatecomment can be met with legal consequences but it is not something that has not been done before,and the most vile and disturbing that even attach their own personal information to such a comment can be targeted.

2) It is about what you do for the victim besides showing your own dislike for the haters publicly,if it does not help the victim it is just giving attention to the hate and do you really think that is such a selfless act?It is like telling a mob of white supremacists how they're pieces of shit for beating up a black guy while that dude is still within their reach but atleast you got the opportunity to vent about how you did not like it.

3) Most important thing to do right now is how to figure out how to not fuel this situation anymore for the sake of the victim,there can be enough decent discussion or calling out being held afterwards when it all has cooled down a bit.

1) This still only takes care of the handful of comments that crosses the line to the point where it's possible to take legal action against them. The rest are left free to continue.

2) Showing dislike is a way of supporting the victim, telling that person that there is someone out there not only noticing the behaviour but also taking action against such behaviour. If these comments are met with silence you give the impression that the victim is alone and that no one cares.

In your example those bystanders have an opportunity to intervene against the white supremacists. In this case no one is within reach, unless you're present when the comment is being written, so you're left with the option to take action after the comment has been written and made public. So the two situations really aren't comparable.

3) So, just let people harass and spread hatred in peace while we "figure things out"? And I'm sure the victim will be grateful when people show up weeks afterwards to defend and show support and tweet about how terrible those comments where when it's no longer relevant and the harassers have moved on to hate on somebody else.