Original Xbox or Xbox One?

[Mr Puggsly]

Pemalite said:

Mr Puggsly said:

I wasn't suggesting Oblivion was a 8th gen game. That's just when the series really exploded because it appealed to a wider audience.

You listed it as a game that places "favor" towards the Xbox One and against the OG Xbox.
I'm not going to get into semantics or what not.

Mr Puggsly said:

If we are comparing consoles, I think its fair to look at all the games on it. Skyrim is a Xbox One game, so is Halo 1 and 2. Most importantly, so is Voodoo Vince.

They got re-releases, they got remastered or remade.

But by the time that has happened, years have passed since the original release, the story is known (I.E. We aren't going to get a WTF moment in 2020 in Halo: CE once we play the level where the flood gets introduced or when we first step off the landing pod and see the amazing vistas!), the multiplayer population gone and moved on, we know there isn't going to be any substantial DLC or expansions or the like.

Not to mention you need to judge a game based on what else is available at the time... Halo: Combat Evolved was absolutely genre defining and ground breaking on the original xbox at that time, but if you compare it against games of today on the Xbox One, it's actually an average shooter by comparative standards.
And that is the key point... Comparative standards.

The bar has simply shifted. - It doesn't stop being an amazing game, there are just even more amazing games today, even from Microsoft themselves.

Mr Puggsly said:

Halo:MCC was a mess at launch. But that's not reflective of the product today. Also, the campaigns weren't that buggy. Its the online that was the real disaster.

I'm not going to play fiddle to this again, but we have already had this discussion and I have already thoroughly refuted it with appropriate empirical evidence.
The campaigns were buggy.
And the online was also a disaster.

The fact that the Master Chief collection has had to be "rebuilt" several times is a testament to how much of a stuff up Halo: The Master Chief collection simply was from start to today. (Where issues still persist, even on the PC builds.)

Mr Puggsly said:

If you ask me which is the better platform, I look at the libraries. Not their impact or my nostalgia. Again, I feel SNES was better than N64 simply because it had a stronger library. That's how I am comparing OG Xbox vs X1.

Impact is certainly an important facet to keep in mind... The Xbox One hasn't really re-defined parts of the industry like the Original Xbox has, it is more of the same.

The SNES was a solid console, so was the N64.
And from a games perspective I find them to both be a wash... The SNES redefined genres, like Mario Kart and StarFox... And the Nintendo 64 with Golden Eye and Mario 64.

And from a hardware point, the SNES pioneered early 3D polygonal graphics and pre-rendered CGI graphics, it was probably the most impactful console in Nintendo's console lineup... Even if on the surface it was an evolutionary update to the 8-bit NES.

Okay, you misunderstood. That's why I said Skyrim is an Xbox One game but not Oblivion.

Again, in my mind comparing consoles should simply mean comparing libraries. Your argument is more about impact on the industry and nostalgia.

I am not denying MCC campaigns had bugs. It just wasn't a broken mess and arguably still a better experience than previous gen versions thanks to better presentation and smoother performance. But again, MCC is a great product now and its still very active.

And again, if you ask me which console was better I look at the libraries. If you asked me which had a bigger impact on gaming in a period where developers were more experimental, I would likely say OG Xbox.